New North American Trade Agreement

[silverking]

North American Recreational Boating Industry Applauds New NAFTA Agreement
NMMA and NMMA Canada Praise Governments, Call for Swiftly Resolving Remaining Trade Issues

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Thom Dammrich, President of the National Marine Manufacturers Association (NMMA), and Sara Anghel, President of NMMA Canada, issued the following statement in response to the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA).

“The agreement between Canada, Mexico, and the U.S. on revising and preserving the trilateral trade pact is excellent news for the recreational boating industry and countless others that rely on the free flow of goods in North America. What seemed impossible just days ago, this deal ensures the continued health and success of industries like marine manufacturing that have built business models based on the special trading relationship between our countries. We thank President Nieto, President Trump, and Prime Minster Trudeau for their tireless work and call on all three countries to immediately review and approve this historic agreement.

“We are also pleased that yesterday’s agreement puts us on a path to remove Section 232 tariffs and subsequent retaliation within the next 60 days. Earlier this year, the U.S. applied tariffs on most aluminum and steel imports – Canada and Mexico responded with punitive tariffs on distinctly American-made industries and products, including recreational boats. As a result, U.S. boat exports to both countries have all but dried up, jeopardizing thousands of jobs and businesses in all three countries. Negotiators should seize the opportunity and immediately resolve this issue.

“Today, we welcome the USMCA, which includes cornerstone NAFTA principles. Anything less would have had debilitating consequences on all sectors of the North American economies. Now, it is time for all three countries to stay at the table and deal with Section 232 tariffs and retaliation within the allotted timeframe, or earlier – thousands of businesses and jobs in Canada, Mexico, and the U.S. are counting on it.”

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About the National Marine Manufacturers Association (NMMA)
The National Marine Manufacturers Association (NMMA) is the leading trade organization for the North American recreational boating industry. NMMA member companies produce more than 80 percent of the boats, engines, trailers, marine accessories and gear used by millions of boaters in North America. The association serves its members and their sales and service networks by improving the business environment for recreational boating including providing domestic and international sales and marketing opportunities, reducing unnecessary government regulation, decreasing the cost of doing business, and helping grow boating participation. As the largest producer of boat and sport shows in the U.S., NMMA connects the recreational boating industry with the boating consumer year-round. Learn more at http://www.nmma.org.

[MudDucker]

Canada should have been embarrassed by the last trade agreement. The US is seeking and winning better deals, which helps our economy and takes away unfair advantages for other governments.

I suspect that China will be dropping their fight against fair trade soon as well.

[StMarksAngler]

Canada should have been embarrassed by the last trade agreement. The US is seeking and winning better deals, which helps our economy and takes away unfair advantages for other governments.

I suspect that China will be dropping their fight against fair trade soon as well.

Is this is a joke? The new trade deal is literally almost exactly the same as the terms of the TPP deal that Trump cancelled. Trump cancelled the TPP, moved the provisions to the "new NAFTA", changed the name and claimed it as his own. The move cost the US hundreds of millions of dollars, and all of the benefits had already been put into place by Obama years ago.

This was one of the single dumbest things done by any administration, ever, and will costs thousands of US jobs over the next few years. Not to mention the billions of dollars in related subsidies to corn farmers due to Trump's China spat. i.e. socialism for rich farmers.

This is the absolute most economically incompetent administration in the history of the United States and it's only going to get worse.

[grasshopper]

Is this is a joke? The new trade deal is literally almost exactly the same as the terms of the TPP deal that Trump cancelled. Trump cancelled the TPP, moved the provisions to the "new NAFTA", changed the name and claimed it as his own. The move cost the US hundreds of millions of dollars, and all of the benefits had already been put into place by Obama years ago.This was one of the single dumbest things done by any administration, ever, and will costs thousands of US jobs over the next few years. Not to mention the billions of dollars in related subsidies to corn farmers due to Trump's China spat. i.e. socialism for rich farmers. This is the absolute most economically incompetent administration in the history of the United States and it's only going to get worse.

I agree with what you are saying. I think you and the people of like mind should protest and quit buying food from those RICH FARMERS. That should show them how you really feel about hunger in our world today.

[MudDucker]

Canada should have been embarrassed by the last trade agreement. The US is seeking and winning better deals, which helps our economy and takes away unfair advantages for other governments.

I suspect that China will be dropping their fight against fair trade soon as well.

Is this is a joke? The new trade deal is literally almost exactly the same as the terms of the TPP deal that Trump cancelled. Trump cancelled the TPP, moved the provisions to the "new NAFTA", changed the name and claimed it as his own. The move cost the US hundreds of millions of dollars, and all of the benefits had already been put into place by Obama years ago.

This was one of the single dumbest things done by any administration, ever, and will costs thousands of US jobs over the next few years. Not to mention the billions of dollars in related subsidies to corn farmers due to Trump's China spat. i.e. socialism for rich farmers.

This is the absolute most economically incompetent administration in the history of the United States and it's only going to get worse.

Really ... lets see your sources and good economic analysis of these claims. Anyone who claims any benefit from the Obama administration is highly suspect in my book. I've seen so little good and a whole lot of bad deals from his global government policies.

The numbers don't lie and the performance of this administration shows that the last one was the economic laughing stock of the world!

[cotton]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washin ... -whats-it/

[MudDucker]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washin ... -whats-it/

Hmmm, looks to be quite a few significant changes.

Oh well, this is a fishing place, so I will limit my response other than to say MAGA!

[AugustusMccrae]

Really ... lets see your sources and good economic analysis of these claims. Anyone who claims any benefit from the Obama administration is highly suspect in my book. I've seen so little good and a whole lot of bad deals from his global government policies.

The numbers don't lie and the performance of this administration shows that the last one was the economic laughing stock of the world!

Actually Mud, in 2013, the number of food stamp recipients swelled to historic levels - 47.6 millions. This was clearly a benefit, and it happened under the Obama administration.

[StMarksAngler]

Alright, my mistake for attempting to bring some reason to the table. When you're that misinformed, there's no explaining to you just how completely wrong you are. If you think Obama's policies were poor for the economy (data shows it was the strongest economic growth since WWII and completely reversed the Bush recession), and that Trump's are a boon, well... you're probably not in finance, or government, or real estate, or the humanities, or well any field that required paying attention to the pulse and direction of the American political climate.

Anyone still supporting Trump and GOP policies at this point, well, there's nothing we can do about them except wait them out. 80% of people under 40 deplore the direction he's taking the country. The young people will just look back in embarrassment on these times and be greatful that they were able to fix the mistakes of those that stomped on American values during the MAGA years.

I'll stick to fishing from here.

[StMarksAngler]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washin ... -whats-it/

Hmmm, looks to be quite a few significant changes.

Nope. Like i said, these were already in place in the Obama TPP deal. Trump canceled that deal, moved these to "New NAFTA", and claimed it as his accomplishment. Pathetic, and completely fake.

[doomtrpr_z71]

Alright, my mistake for attempting to bring some reason to the table. When you're that misinformed, there's no explaining to you just how completely wrong you are. If you think Obama's policies were poor for the economy (data shows it was the strongest economic growth since WWII and completely reversed the Bush recession), and that Trump's are a boon, well... you're probably not in finance, or government, or real estate, or the humanities, or well any field that required paying attention to the pulse and direction of the American political climate.

Anyone still supporting Trump and GOP policies at this point, well, there's nothing we can do about them except wait them out. 80% of people under 40 deplore the direction he's taking the country. The young people will just look back in embarrassment on these times and be greatful that they were able to fix the mistakes of those that stomped on American values during the MAGA years.

I'll stick to fishing from here.

You probably should stick to fishing, while it is true that some tpp provisions were reused there were quite a few chnages in the new nafta especially concerning China. I'm going to assume you were in school during the last adminstration and just got out, otherwise you wouldn't make much silly arguments about the economic growth under the previous adminstration. I worked in manufacturing before college and went to college because of the decline, and it never recovered in those eight years. Yet, today signs are everywhere advertising that a business is hiring and the gdp is growing. Believe what ever you want but the economy sucked for those 8 years. The fact that you think farmers will get rich from growing corn is laughable, it's only one cent per bushel. There is not a stand of cotton or sweet corn left in SW ga or the fl panhandle, no farmers is getting rich in the near future. As part of that youth you mentioned earlier the only benefit of the previous administration that I saw was that economy was so bad I stayed in school long enough to get 4 degrees, so thanks Obama.

[AugustusMccrae]

There will never be a President I agree with 100% of the time.... because I will never run.
That said. As someone past the 40 y/o marker in life, I don't give much thought to those 18-30 in regards to their desired direction of the country. Harsh? Maybe. But every day I live, I gain a little more experience, and hopefully wisdom.
There is a reason there are minimum ages to qualify for certain public offices.
To paraphrase an old saying: 'if you aren't a liberal at age 20, you don't have a heart. If you aren't a conservative at 50, you don't have a brain.'

Happy fishing to all. And much prayer for the Panhandle.

[silverking]

Did not intend for this thread to turn into a political argument over past and present policies. Learned to keep those thoughts to myself.

I do share press releases from time to time that come across my desk relating to the boat-building/tackle industries that I think might be of interest to members. That was the purpose of this post.

[MudDucker]

Alright, my mistake for attempting to bring some reason to the table. When you're that misinformed, there's no explaining to you just how completely wrong you are. If you think Obama's policies were poor for the economy (data shows it was the strongest economic growth since WWII and completely reversed the Bush recession), and that Trump's are a boon, well... you're probably not in finance, or government, or real estate, or the humanities, or well any field that required paying attention to the pulse and direction of the American political climate.

Anyone still supporting Trump and GOP policies at this point, well, there's nothing we can do about them except wait them out. 80% of people under 40 deplore the direction he's taking the country. The young people will just look back in embarrassment on these times and be greatful that they were able to fix the mistakes of those that stomped on American values during the MAGA years.

I'll stick to fishing from here.

Your mistake was thinking you know more than others. I doubt very seriously that you are as well educated or as well versed in economics as myself and I have the credentials to back up my studies and opinions.

Your statement regarding Obama's economy is quite frankly laughable. Nearly every measurable economic indicator showed Obama's economic policy to be worse than lousy. Business was off, employment was down and only the feds propping up of the economy prevented it from being as bad or worse as it was under Carter. It was only after Trump started relieving stupid regulations and attacking the wealth transfer caused by Obama's foreign policy that the economy started real recovery. Now business is up, employment is up and most of all, confidence is up. We who are well educated and informed are embarrassed by folks who believe as you do.

I'll let you continue your diatribe as you wish, but without more, you offer nothing for me to consider.

[Salty Gator]

Did not intend for this thread to turn into a political argument over past and present policies. Learned to keep those thoughts to myself.

I do share press releases from time to time that come across my desk relating to the boat-building/tackle industries that I think might be of interest to members. That was the purpose of this post.

Come on man, you know the group. You didn’t really think it wouldn’t snowball into this,did you?