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When is it going to stop?

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Guns you own to be itemized on your 2009 tax return









>
> This is beyond "serious" and is another effort to eliminate the
> Second Amendment. Remember folks, without
> the Second, you can't have the First and visa versa!
>
> I don't know how factual all of this is, I did look at some of the links
> below and find that this yo-yo has indeed begun such legislation but
> has no sponsors at this time. It is pitiful to see how this country is
> bowing to those who would take complete control over us... The
> really sad part is no one seems to be paying attention!
>
> Senate Bill SB-2099 will require us to put on our 2009 1040 federal
> tax form all guns that you have or own. It may require fingerprints and
> a tax of $50 per gun.
>
> This bill was introduced on Feb.. 24. This bill will become public
> knowledge 30 days after it is voted into law. This is an amendment to the
> Internal Revenue Act of 1986. This means that the Finance Committee can pass
> this without the Senate voting on it at all.
>
> The full text of the proposed amendment is on the U.S. Senate
> homepage, http://www.senate.gov/ You can find the bill by doing a
> search by the bill number, SB-2099.
> You know who to call; I strongly suggest you do. Please send a copy of
> this e-mail to every gun owner you know.
>
> http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/text
>
>
> Congress is now starting on the firearms confiscation bill. If it
> passes, gun owners will become criminals if you don't fully comply.
> It has started.
>
> Very Important for you to be aware of a new bill HR 45 introduced into
> the House. This is the Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of
> Sale Act of 2009.
> Even gun shop owners didn't know about this because the government is
> trying to fly it under the radar.
> To find out about this - go to any government website and type in HR 45
> or Google HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act
> of 2009. You will get all the information.
> Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm - any rifle with a
> clip or ANY pistol unless:
> It is registered -You are fingerprinted -You supply a current Driver's
> License -You supply yourSocial Security # -You will submit to a
> physical & mental evaluation at any time of their choosing -Each update -
> change or ownership through private or public sale must be reported and
> costs $25 - Failure to do so you automatically lose the right to own a firearm
> and are subject up to a year in jail. -There is a child provision clause on page 16
> section 305 stating a child-access provision. Gun must be locked and
> inaccessible to any child under 18. -They would have the right to come and
> inspect that you are storing your gun safely away from
> accessibility to children and fine is punishable for up to 5 yrs. in prison.
>
> If you think this is a joke - go to the website and take your pick of
> many options to read this. It is long and lengthy. But, more and more
> people are becoming aware of this. Pass the word along. Any
> hunters in your family pass this along.
>
> This is just a "termite" approach to complete confiscation of guns and
> disarming of our society to the point we have no defense - chip
> away a little here and there until the goal is accomplished before anyone
> realizes it.
>
> This is one to act on whether you own a gun or not.
>
> http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45:
>
> http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/show
> http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-45
> http://www.mccookgazette.com/story/1561009.html
>
> Please.. copy and send this out to EVERYONE in the USA , whether you
> support the Right to Bear Arms or are for gun control. We all
> should have
> the right to choose.
>
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No Way

Ain't going to happen
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Do they expect anyone to tell the truth on a tax return? :roll:
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I hope that BS don't pass, I own about 6 long guns and a pistol. That would add $650.00 to my taxes just for the priviledge of owning those guns. Buncha BS!!
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Somebody better get serious about this. I have family members with large gun colllecitons! Wow! What a disaster that would be. - Daybreak
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/blairholt.asp

As was the 2007 version of Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act, the current version has been referred to the House Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security, and the fact that the bill does not have even a single co-sponsor makes it unlikely that it will ever be brought to a vote before Congress, much less passed.
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With the "SB-2099" rumors circulating again in the wake of the 2008 election, the National Rifle Assocation released the following informational alert in May 2009:

Clearing Up the Rumors: The Truth About The “Gun Tax Bill”

Friday, May 29, 2009

In the last few weeks, NRA-ILA has received hundreds of e-mails warning us about “SB-2099,” a bill that would supposedly require you to report all your guns on your income tax return every April 15.

Like many rumors, there’s just a grain of truth to this one. Someone’s recycling an old alert, which wasn’t even very accurate when it was new.

There actually was a U.S. Senate bill with that number that would have taxed handguns—nine years ago. It was introduced by anti-gun Sen. Jack Reed (D-R.I.), and it would have included handguns under the National Firearms Act’s tax and registration scheme. This has nothing to do with anyone’s Form 1040, of course.

Fortunately, S. 2099 disappeared without any action by the Senate, back when Bill Clinton was still in the White House. We reported about it back then, just as we report about new anti-gun bills every week. Now, it’s time for gun owners to drop this old distraction and focus on the real threats at hand.
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not going to happen. It would create a database that in the wrong hands could have tragic consequence. Additionally, who is going to register their guns? I register a lever action 22 that holds 15 shells or 22mag with a removable clip and now have a government record of owning "assualt weapons;" I'll pay may tax penalities....
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That would be crazy if something like that got passed.As sportsmen we really need to watch the Obama camp.
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This is a response from the NRA regarding an inquiry about this bill.
In early January, U.S. Representative Bobby Rush (D-Ill.) introduced H.R. 45, also known as "Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act." The bill is, at its core and as its name implies, a licensing and registration scheme.

The measure calls for all handgun owners to submit to the federal government an application that shall include, among many other things: a photo; an address; a thumbprint; a completed, written firearm safety test; private mental health records; and a fee. And those are only some of the requirements to be licensed!

The bill would further require the attorney general to establish a database of every handgun sale, transfer, and owner's address in America. Moreover, the bill would make it illegal to own or possess a "qualifying firearm" -- defined as "any handgun; or any semiautomatic firearm that can accept any detachable ammunition feeding device..." [emphasis added] without one of the proposed licenses.

Additionally, the bill would make it illegal to transfer ownership of a "qualifying firearm" to anyone who is not a licensed gun dealer or collector (with very few exceptions), and would require "qualifying firearm" owners to report all transfers to the attorney general's database. It would also be illegal for a licensed gun owner to fail to record a gun loss or theft within 72 hours, or fail to report a change of address within 60 days. Further, if a minor obtains a firearm and injures someone with it, the owner of the firearm may face a multiple-year jail sentence.

H.R. 45 is essentially a reintroduction of H.R. 2666, which Rush introduced in 2007. H.R. 2666 contained much of the same language as H.R. 45, and was co-sponsored by several well-known anti-gun legislators--including Barack Obama's chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel. H.R. 45 currently has no co-sponsors. It is in a committee and is not up for a vote. However, this is an important bill because every element it contains--from regulation of all detachable-magazine semi-autos, to licensing and the elimination of private sales--is part of the agenda of major anti-gun groups.

As for SB-2099 someone took an old e-mail discussing an old bill from 2000 and changed the date. There is no such bill in the current Congress, and the emails about SB2099 being sent around are false and unnecessary distractions from real threats.

Thank you again for contacting our office. Please rest assured that NRA-ILA will continue to monitor this bill closely, and will keep you informed, via our website (www.nraila.org) and magazines, of any developments if they materialize.

Sincerely,
Miranda Bond
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An update for what it is worth. Earlier I responded to this. I have since checked this out on Truth or Fiction.com. SB 2099 is listed as fiction. There is a bill, however, HR 45 that does deal with mandatory licensing for all gun owners. That needs monitoring. So far there is no co-sponsors for the bill that a Mr. Blair has submitted. - Daybreak
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Excuse the second post, I had not read the others that followed mine later clarifying the issue. I still think we all had better keep an eye open on this issue. Daybreak
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what gun? salute1
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