NOT Scoopseas oil spill thread

[MudDucker]

Several of the large ships offered have been used before successfully. The one in Virginia right now has not been tested, but is based on a proven design. There is no way in hell that what they would put back from their skimming operation would not be better than the aftermath of the use of disbursements.

Scoop sea, I have only become intensely interested in unions since I have watched them destroy the auto mfg business and now to watch Obama giving them billions. They are seeking the destruction of our country as we know enjoy it.

I think your philosophy regarding the role of government is agencies is GREAT!

[hokiega]

The article from the "Financial Post", if accurate, really upsets me. If we can get 90+% of the oil off the water with a Dutch skimmer I think that is a whole lot better than 0% because the EPA says so. All of this help that is being turned away is ridiculous. While folks are sitting around trying to figure out what to do, our coastlines are being severely affected.
I was not a big George Bush fan, but at least he would make up his mind and DO something.
FF

I'm hesitant to believe that 90% is accurate with BP shooting the dispersant (with our government's allowing them to do so) at the well head. That is part of the problem. They say they can't measure what's coming out (you know they can), and they're breaking it up so it's not all on the surface so they don't have to pay to recover it. Anything they recover they have to pay much more for (recovery, disposal, etc.) In my opinion, we're putting way too much emphasis on the President here. There's alot more underlying and maybe sinister (even?) issues. Our entire economy is dependent on oil, do we really think any President (Obama or even if it had been McCain) could do. Really put the coals to BP? Try to bankrupt them? Come on. One of the real issues is in the original permit BP claimed it had the processes in place to handle a spill of this magnitude and that the environmental impacts, if one happened, would be minimal. You don't have to be a tree-hugger or an environmentalist to realize that this ain't minimal and they weren't near ready to handle it. The most profitable industry in the history of the world and they have invested nothing into being able to prevent and/or stop a disaster of this magnitude more quickly than 2 1/2 months? The same technologies used 30 years ago are all that they have to use in 2010?
Anyway, here's a question-Has anyone made a conscious decision to stop buying BP gasoline? I have one less than a mile from my house and I will run out or pay 20 cents more to go somewhere else. I know this, that station is as busy as it's ever been, and I don't understand it. Heyward won't feel any pain, but it's something that I can do as a poor person to express my dissastifaction.

[Barhopr]

I never have understood the boycotting of BP stations. If they were all franchised owed, maybe. The ones I know of are all independent and get their fuel from the same fuel terminal as nearly every station in town...Jadams can give us more insight into that..

[Jumptrout51]

Think this route for a moment:
If you personally had a disaster happen that required your financial resources to correct......and your financial resources became diluted or blocked......What would/could you do?

IMO boycotting BP sales is counter-productive.

[hmaadd29]

I don't understand the ban bp thing either BH.

[Reel Cowboy]

[quote="hokiega] Anyway, here's a question-Has anyone made a conscious decision to stop buying BP gasoline? I have one less than a mile from my house and I will run out or pay 20 cents more to go somewhere else. I know this, that station is as busy as it's ever been, and I don't understand it. Heyward won't feel any pain, but it's something that I can do as a poor person to express my dissastifaction.[/quote]


Where's my Billy Madison clip when I need it.

So what you're saying is, we need to stop buying BP fuel and further hurt the little people that own/run these gas stations. The same people that had nothing to do with the spill or the greed or lack of effective plan? The same folks that you share a community with? Now I ask you in all seriousness, How does that make any sense at all?

By all means, if you see Heyward walking down the street kick his ass but leave the poor basstid getting paid to pump your gas a break.

[MudDucker]

Why not get on the President's azz? I tell you why I get on his azz. This whole thing could have been averted if his administration had reviewed and made changes in the MMS. Barack promised a full review of all agencies. My understanding is that this is either not happening or it is a joke. The MMS was supposedly overseeing this well, but instead of investigating and putting new restrictions on BP even though they were notified back in February that there were serious problems with the well, they instead granted exception after exception from best practices to BP for this well. Then when it blows, his administration has no clue how to respond and instead of helping, actually hinders the process by failing to waive the Jones Act, blocking the use of barges by Louisiana and being slow to grant permits to the States involved. Then when local governments have a better idea, they shut them down or tell them they will not be paid for pulling out the stops to protect their environment.

Understand, I hold BP responsible first, but this administration is in such a close second that I would have to call them neck and neck in the race to incompetence.

[Barhopr]

http://www.thedestinlog.com/news/alex-1 ... rdido.html

[MudDucker]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... ns_opinion

[Harmsway]

Here is a video from BP about recent progress on the bottom kill. Its about 10 days old now, but I found it very informative and credible. Enjoy . . .
http://bp.concerts.com/gom/kwellsreliefwells062710.htm

[Barhopr]

Sounds like the haulting of drilling relief wells and the delay installing the new well cap may fall in line with the theory of the subsurface break in the well casing. Hopping this doesn't go FUBAR!

[MudDucker]

I had heard rumors of a subsurface break and the fact that the guberment will not let them test the valve by slowing closing it to increase pressure gives some credence to that. It is free flowing now, so what do they have to lose by trying to shut it in with the new valve.

[Barhopr]

I put a link on here some weeks ago from "the oil drum", talking about just what is happening now. Subsurface leaks can't be plugged if the casing is broken.

[MudDucker]

I said I heard a rumor ... let me more specific, a client of mine was asked to bid on the build of a cap system. One notable thing about this system he said was it designed to extend down into the casing several feet to seal the casing. The only reason to do that was they suspect a crack in the casing between the blowout preventer and the ocean floor.

[lonesouth]

the pets...who's going to care for the pets?

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2010/07/15/r ... =allsearch