Angler Ethics?
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In hunting and fishing I always try to stay as far away from other folks as possible. Even if it means going out of my way. I hunt and fish to get away from people and it supercedes my need for success. Having said that, we had a similar situation a couple of weeks ago. I am talking about the fouled up NOAA forecast and the boating etiquette. After slowly chugging our way 16 miles out on 3-5' seas (all while listening to the weather band repeat "1-2 ft seas, protected waters a light chop" over and over again, we made it to our spot and started catching fish. Only to have another boat (similar to the one pictured above, although I don't think it was the same) cruise up and start drifting exactly two boats from us. I know they weren't technically doing anything wrong, but it was still enough to angry up the blood. I held my tongue, but it wasn't easy.
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This is pretty much why I still mostly solo canoe & kayak fish the skinniest, narrowest tidal creeks I can find. I can't stand to be in earshot of even relatively polite skiff anglers chatting, playing itunes, & casting within 100 yards of me when I'm trying to find not just fish, but also that increasingly precious item: solitude.
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I figured I'd drop a past experience here. As a guy in a bay boat I've had a few dbags get way too close and show me just how big of an arse they could be. I stay calm, collected and back my boat as close to them as I dare. Then trim up my 225zuke and politely give them a bath. Then trim down and fly somewhere else. Had one Googan eventually follow me from afar and decided he wanted to confront me for repaying his ethics. Needless to say no shots fired, but when a googan sees a full size 1911, they typically change their mind. The worst part of this is it's all avoidable if people just showed each other respect.
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My biggest pet peeves of many from this weekend is that A diver flag is not a fixed object, it serves a purpose and is meant to be raised when divers are in the water and lowered when making way. Some people never take it down. Some guy had a huge American flag and another flag on either side of his diver flag where you couldn't even see it.
Rocky gave the best advice. It serves no purpose to get in pissing matches with people on the water. I will from time to time briefly voice my displeasure with someone's conduct but not more than just telling them what I didn't like before I drive away so they are aware, whether they care or not.
Rocky gave the best advice. It serves no purpose to get in pissing matches with people on the water. I will from time to time briefly voice my displeasure with someone's conduct but not more than just telling them what I didn't like before I drive away so they are aware, whether they care or not.
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That's funny stuff there, sure gotta be careful of the big guns and big boats with big motors these days.hambric85 wrote:I figured I'd drop a past experience here. As a guy in a bay boat I've had a few dbags get way too close and show me just how big of an arse they could be. I stay calm, collected and back my boat as close to them as I dare. Then trim up my 225zuke and politely give them a bath. Then trim down and fly somewhere else. Had one Googan eventually follow me from afar and decided he wanted to confront me for repaying his ethics. Needless to say no shots fired, but when a googan sees a full size 1911, they typically change their mind. The worst part of this is it's all avoidable if people just showed each other respect.
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My worst experience was at Ecofina when I had my 16' skiff. On plane running out the river. My skiff would only do 20mph at WOT. Well that was not fast enough for someone in a bay boat. They blew by me at 10' distance and soaked everyone in the boat. I still get mad thinking about it.
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Just curious, is this a joke?hambric85 wrote:I figured I'd drop a past experience here. As a guy in a bay boat I've had a few dbags get way too close and show me just how big of an arse they could be. I stay calm, collected and back my boat as close to them as I dare. Then trim up my 225zuke and politely give them a bath. Then trim down and fly somewhere else. Had one Googan eventually follow me from afar and decided he wanted to confront me for repaying his ethics. Needless to say no shots fired, but when a googan sees a full size 1911, they typically change their mind. The worst part of this is it's all avoidable if people just showed each other respect.
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Yall check out this link. Same guy trying to sell numbers and someone called him out on the picture of his boat being too close.
http://www.thehulltruth.com/fishing-mis ... mbers.html
http://www.thehulltruth.com/fishing-mis ... mbers.html
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Lolfishdux wrote:Yall check out this link. Same guy trying to sell numbers and someone called him out on the picture of his boat being too close.
http://www.thehulltruth.com/fishing-mis ... mbers.html
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As you know, most folks at ecofina have to run on plane all the way out depending on tide. Some boats can't stay on plane less than 20. Most aren't going to come off plane and risk bottoming out when someone is in the channel going 20Hit-n-Miss wrote:My worst experience was at Ecofina when I had my 16' skiff. On plane running out the river. My skiff would only do 20mph at WOT. Well that was not fast enough for someone in a bay boat. They blew by me at 10' distance and soaked everyone in the boat. I still get mad thinking about it.
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As you know, most folks at ecofina have to run on plane all the way out depending on tide. Some boats can't stay on plane less than 20. Most aren't going to come off plane and risk bottoming out when someone is in the channel going 20[/quote]
Exactly. If I'm on plane and come up on a slower boat I try to make sure they know I'm gaining and will slow down and pass them as far away as i can. But don't expect us to come off plane and have to idle all the way out the river. Not going to happen. Same reason we have passing lanes on the highway.
As you know, most folks at ecofina have to run on plane all the way out depending on tide. Some boats can't stay on plane less than 20. Most aren't going to come off plane and risk bottoming out when someone is in the channel going 20[/quote]
Exactly. If I'm on plane and come up on a slower boat I try to make sure they know I'm gaining and will slow down and pass them as far away as i can. But don't expect us to come off plane and have to idle all the way out the river. Not going to happen. Same reason we have passing lanes on the highway.
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Sadly it's not. Twice I've had people literally idle up next to me where I could touch their boat with my rod. Some people have absolutely zero respect nor ethics. Both times they were given a shower. I'm easy to get along with, fishing is my destresser ( don't think that's actually a word) if there's an entire ocean, why does someone think that it's ok to push a smaller vessel off a spot even though they were clearly there first. I don't have many buttons, but that's one of them. I typically bend over backwards to help people, even if it takes time out of fishing. That's the code I was taught. you help others, you should always be polite and respectful, but do not tread on me and think there will not be consequences. I'd share a beer and tie up boats if someone is respectful, but to change course 90* and push me off an anchored position.... I won't stand for it.xXLoneBowmanXx wrote:Just curious, is this a joke?hambric85 wrote:I figured I'd drop a past experience here. As a guy in a bay boat I've had a few dbags get way too close and show me just how big of an arse they could be. I stay calm, collected and back my boat as close to them as I dare. Then trim up my 225zuke and politely give them a bath. Then trim down and fly somewhere else. Had one Googan eventually follow me from afar and decided he wanted to confront me for repaying his ethics. Needless to say no shots fired, but when a googan sees a full size 1911, they typically change their mind. The worst part of this is it's all avoidable if people just showed each other respect.
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I realize that all boats can't stay on plane at that speed. But he could have went wider and not wet us. He knew what he was doing. Just being a jack###. Widest part of the river past last bend and during high tide.
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LOL... The way my luck runs, I'd lift the motor and spray everyone and then my motor would stall out, followed by a really awkward confrontation.hambric85 wrote:Sadly it's not. Twice I've had people literally idle up next to me where I could touch their boat with my rod. Some people have absolutely zero respect nor ethics. Both times they were given a shower. I'm easy to get along with, fishing is my destresser ( don't think that's actually a word) if there's an entire ocean, why does someone think that it's ok to push a smaller vessel off a spot even though they were clearly there first. I don't have many buttons, but that's one of them. I typically bend over backwards to help people, even if it takes time out of fishing. That's the code I was taught. you help others, you should always be polite and respectful, but do not tread on me and think there will not be consequences. I'd share a beer and tie up boats if someone is respectful, but to change course 90* and push me off an anchored position.... I won't stand for it.xXLoneBowmanXx wrote:Just curious, is this a joke?hambric85 wrote:I figured I'd drop a past experience here. As a guy in a bay boat I've had a few dbags get way too close and show me just how big of an arse they could be. I stay calm, collected and back my boat as close to them as I dare. Then trim up my 225zuke and politely give them a bath. Then trim down and fly somewhere else. Had one Googan eventually follow me from afar and decided he wanted to confront me for repaying his ethics. Needless to say no shots fired, but when a googan sees a full size 1911, they typically change their mind. The worst part of this is it's all avoidable if people just showed each other respect.
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Boat ramp drama (wow never thought I would use that as a phrase) is whole other can can or worms...a messier can. That's where the IDIOT comes out in people for sure.