1st and 2nd Amendment

[RodBow]

well... he flys a gator flag too

[MudDucker]

I'm not sure about McCain/Palin. It seems like Sarah Palin is ready to pimp her state out to earth rapers no matter what the cost to the environment. It seems like they would bury our redfish and trout under an oil slick in return for 10 cents off of a gallon of gas.

Maybe Obama would be more beneficial to sportsmen everywhere.

It was really encouraging to see GEN (Ret) Colin Powell endorse Obama. Being active duty military, I was glad to see that there is another point of view

Please tell me the last time we had a major oil spill? Please tell me when they have ever had a major oil spill at Purdue Bay or from the Alaska Pipeline. The Amwar field is about 60 miles from there and the pipe to hook the two would not be difficult to construct. Have you seen the Alaskan animals dying because of the pipeline? Nope. The only oil spill in Alaska came from a drunk boat captain. Something that hasn't happened since.

You might want to consider facts rather than empty emotional rhetoric.

[What a mess]

I must admit I am not real savy when it comes to politics up front. Every time I say I will not vote for Obama I am told I am a racist. There are many things that show I am not. I also didn't like Clinton or Kerry either. I am not voting for a person that is or runs on a pro choice platform, I know that isn't "PC" but being for legalizing gays getting married doesn't help get my vote either. The whole Robin Hood thing bugs me too folks that can should work. Folks that get a check for being unable to work and then work on the side should forfit all benifits. If you can work do it that is stealing. That said I have done some fact check reaserch at the request of my yellow dog democrate boss and sister. Talk about empty emotional rhetoric almost none of the claims made against Obama by Mc Cain are true nor are those we get crammed into our inbox's. Little of what is said about Mc Cain by Obama is true. Was politics always about who lies the most and the loudest wins? If yes we republicans will win this time for sure. I would love to be able to trust and respect the leader of our nation. That ship has sunk for me in the last couple of days. We are willing to allow people that sell their power make choices that will effect every man woman and child in this nation. I don't have a clue how to fix our system but it is broken and we all suffer greatly for it. Our nation serves its own selfish desires at the cost of any and all that stand in its way home or abroad. History does show that we were once a great nation and one that stood for life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Now we are a nation that stands for me myself and I at any cost. We don't know our own niehbors names but we want to controll the whole world while failing to heal or help our own sick, care for our elderly or soilders. We may have become more mean spirited and selfish than any land has ever been. If we don't change tell me where we will be in thirty more years? We need change, we need hope! Obama's message is great and if he had some real method to bring those things to America I would certainly vote for him. He does not any more have the tools or power to bring about change than you or I do. We want to have a change we can live with and our kids and grandkids too, so we had better find a new way to do this stuff. A return to the values that made us different, the ones that set us apart and made this a great nation to begin with.

[Joe]

I guess you need to barricade your sign from traffic as seen in this pic.

Sorry Cant figure out how to post pic

[CrispyFishin]

Wow, I really touched a nerve.

I've contemplated a response, but I think I should qualify it first.

I'm a guy, a white guy. I don't have long hair (it's high and tight). I don't have any piercings, I don't even have tattoos. I'm seventh generation Floridian. Because of my religious preference and occupation, the vast majority of my acquaintances and friends are conservative republicans. I even consider myself to be a "social conservative".

I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't accused of being a hippy. It's bad enough being accused of slinging "empty emotional rhetoric".

So, here's an undisputable fact:

Millions and millions of Americans, me included, believe that the republicans in power are responsible for unchecked deregulation that poisoned Wall Street.

Personally, I'm afraid to wait around for unchecked deregulation to poison our coastal environment.

[Redbelly]

The "two party" system is all smoke and mirrors.

Gubment has continually become larger, taken more, and gained more control. Those who know have raped us for what they could while they could.

Our economy is at it's mathmatical ending. It is inevitable that a fiat based economy collapse. We have let "them" gut our wealth creating mechanism. Ross Perot told us so.

Enjoy what is about to ensue.

It matters not who is President, I guaronteee.

[whiteelephant]

Powell was a quota general that called off the first Gulf war too quick and caused us to have to go back a second time. (edit) Powell has milked the system as much as he can so time to change tacks.

Chalk edit - You can say what you want to about politics, but stick to politics

[RHTFISH]

When asked, Powell responded...."it has nothing to do with race."

He's a dog looking for someone to hunt him....again! I feel confident that Hussein Obama has already promised him a high level position if elected.
In fact, I've got a few bucks I'd be willing to wager on it! Maybe I could make enough to help offset my 401K losses thanks to the
DEMOCRATS and turncoat retard Repubs that voted to bail them out thereby thrusting a huge spear into the heart of capitalism and
putting this country on even a faster track toward socialism.

[dolphinatic]

Maybe Obama would be more beneficial to sportsmen everywhere.

It was really encouraging to see GEN (Ret) Colin Powell endorse Obama. Being active duty military, I was glad to see that there is another point of view

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Another point of view???? Yeah....Colin Powell is thinking about Colin Powell. He couldn't give a rats rearend about Obama. This endorsement is nothing more than Colin Powell making up for so called "dissing" the black community all the years he served with a GOP administration. He's so full of it. Calling Obama "transfiguring" If Chris Dodd, John Kerry, John Edwards, or Al Gore (all white Democrat liberals) were running on Obama's same credentials and experience, Powell would not have given them the time of day, much less an endorsement. Why do you think he didn't endorse either of the last 2 clowns on the Democrat side???? They're not even as liberal as Obama. Kerry has more military and foreign policy experience than Obama (not saying much) and couldn't get a Powell endorsement 4 years ago. Notice that he also waited until Bush was on his way out as to not endorse against him. Powell owes too much to Bush 41 and Reagan. Without those men, he would have never gotten close to where he got. At least he knew who to respect

[cygraphics]

Love the Picture! Doesn't matter who you are voting for it's funny.

Sorry the thread took a turn for the worse and everyone had get all "political" on you. Quit dissing the General and get back to fishing guys.

[SHOWBOAT]

So, here's an undisputable fact:

Millions and millions of Americans, me included, believe that the republicans in power are responsible for unchecked deregulation that poisoned Wall Street.

Personally, I'm afraid to wait around for unchecked deregulation to poison our coastal environment.

I am not going to respond/attack your point of view, or the "fact" that people are blaming republicans for the economic meltdown. Freedom of expression and the right to form your own beliefs are what make America great.

I would like to hear more about the philosophy you rely upon for holding republicans responsible for the current break down on Wall Street though...

Not that I expect you to follow my philosophy or that it will change your opinion, but here is my philosophy for "blaming the democratic party" nonetheless. Although a republican currently holds the Oval Office, it is congress (a Democratic congress) that creates regulation. Additionally, it was Bill Clinton who encouraged the every man should have a chance to own a home and live the "American Dream" philosophy that resulted in subprime lending and unsecured risk on Wall Street (he addressed this directly and admitted he was "partially at fault" when on the Late Show about a month ago). These same Wall Steet Institutions that incurred an atypical amount of risk serve as the guarantors/underwriters for contracts world-wide, and that why the current regime decided a "bail-out" using tax payer money was necessary. It is the "bail-out" that took away the accountability for incuring the such risks and allowed Wall Street executives to escape the consequences of breaching their fiduciary duties, pushing the costs of those externalities to the tax payer.

Again, this isn't meant to disparage, but merely point out that there conflicting views on what has led to the current economic situation, despite what the "masses" may believe. My.02

[lordsfisher]

One thing the majority of us can agree on is.... without affordable fuel to get us to the ramp and fishin spots, most of us will not be able to fully enjoy the sport we love. PerryFisher's wisdom about subsidized alternative energy like corn ethanol got me thinking. Making ethanol from pine limbs and tops sounds like it has more potential for our community. A company in south Georgia is considering a $200M plant that would make 50 million gallons of ethanol annually from the cellulose in wood. It would only be good if it could be done without government subsidies. According to Georgia, "the state already generates 18 million dry tons of waste wood each year, including limbs and tree tops, Georgia Forestry Commission director Ken Stewart said. The amount of ethanol available from the waste wood alone - 80 gallons per ton - would be enough to replace 18 percent of the gasoline and diesel fuels consumed in the state each year, he said."

Does anyone know what happens to all our tree laps here?

Anyway, there's a lot of sharp folks on here, and I'd like to hear if anyone sees potential with this, or its unfeasible for some other reasons. At the pump it says up to 10 percent ethanol. Makes poor sense to me to make ethanol from corn.

Also a public service announcement from Joe the Plumber:
"Please, please, chew your corn."

[RHTFISH]

Dropping a few names of chief culprits....Dodd, Frank, Schumer, Raines, Waters....methinks they are all Democrats!

[dolphinatic]

Dropping a few names of chief culprits....Dodd, Frank, Schumer, Raines, Waters....methinks they are all Democrats!

You sure it's not solely the "last 8 years of the failed Bush-McCain economic policies?" You know, all policy trickles down from the top.....and who's at the top Doesn't the President control everything???? And only receive credit (blame) for all the bad decisions? Never for the good.

Too bad more of the American public is not informed or even educated about this mess. It's what allows these clowns to get away with all that they do, especially during an election. Having the majority of "mainstream" media in your back pocket doesn't hurt either

[Littoral]

It's really difficult to sort out all the information enough to make an informed decision.
There aren't many sources that we can trust. That said, it can be done but if you only
listen/read sources that agree with your personal views then you're really selling yourself short.
Ignorance is bliss.
These sites cut to the chase:
factcheck.org and politifact
Don't expect to like what you learn, whatever side you're for.