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Re: Anybody having problems with the ethanol gas?
Posted: May 6th, 2009, 1:14 pm
by Reel Cowboy
Re: Anybody having problems with the ethanol gas?
Posted: May 6th, 2009, 4:13 pm
by Flanders
Barhopr wrote:If I could push a boat around with it, everyone would want to see it!!

Re: Anybody having problems with the ethanol gas?
Posted: May 6th, 2009, 7:31 pm
by Eerman
Barhopr wrote:If I could push a boat around with it, everyone would want to see it!!
I think power pole has been trademarked/patented BH

Re: Anybody having problems with the ethanol gas?
Posted: May 6th, 2009, 8:29 pm
by Jumptrout51
Barhopr wrote:I have a STIFFY I can push it with!
No more than your boat has run lately, you may need the STIFFY yourself.
P.S. You and yours are invited to the MAINSTAY fish fry Friday night.
Re: Anybody having problems with the ethanol gas?
Posted: May 6th, 2009, 9:20 pm
by Barhopr
True enough JT but the boat is in for modifications and enhancements and is soon to be on the water a great deal in the 4-5 months to come.
Thanks for the invite but I will have to set my anchor in Beacon Hill Friday night. The grog will be flowing and I would hate to have to watch the tourney from the PSJ lockup. Swing by if you want
Re: Anybody having problems with the ethanol gas?
Posted: May 6th, 2009, 10:16 pm
by Flanders
I know my father has avoided putting any gas in his boat that contained E-10 so of course no problems there, however the station that my wife and I get gas started using E-10, and so far I've had to replace 2 injectors in her Jeep, and 3 injectors in my truck. The injectors in my truck being messed up cause the catalic converter to go bad as well. Nice little repair bill there.

I now avoid the ethanol..

Re: Anybody having problems with the ethanol gas?
Posted: May 7th, 2009, 6:02 am
by tin can
Baygator, one thing that doesn't get mentioned very often is when ethinol fuels start to degrade the octane drops. Try topping the tank off with premium to raise the octane level.
Re: Anybody having problems with the ethanol gas?
Posted: May 22nd, 2009, 10:45 pm
by jadams92002
This Ethanol deal sucks for everyone. There are still stores out there that do not have ethanol at the pump. The proposed mandate for every store to have a 10% ethanol blend is in January 2010, but like most government mandates it will more than likely be pushed back a time or two. As most of you may know water dose combine with ethanol and it is heaver than gas. Ethanol and water are both around 8 lbs. per gallon and gas around 7 lbs per gallon. With that being said any water in the tank will cause the ethanol and water to fall out to the bottom where the fuel pickup is located. If you want it see what I am talking about take a clear mason jar with some (E10) or ethanol gas fill it about ¾ of the way and add 2 tablespoons of water shake it for a few seconds. The water and the ethanol will settle to the bottom with all the gas at the top. If you want a more exact formula to check the ethanol blend let me know. If you have the time when it is mandated this is a way to get rid of the ethanol, but you would have to do to on a much larger scale of cores.
When it comes to ethanol detraining engine components it is very true. Pretty much any material made from a petroleum product such as plastic and rubber will be affected by the ethanol.
Good point Tin Can. That has some truth to it. Ethanol is rated at 200octane. The blend ratio for 87octane is 90reg/ 10% ethanol. That being said from the pump you are getting 89octane, but as the gas sits the ethanol will be the first thing to evaporate leavening you with 87 octane. If you run super you will have more octane loss than the regular. The blend ratio is 60sup/30reg/10eth. As it sits it will leave you with 89octane.
I don’t like the stuff either, but I am afraid it isn’t going any ware.
Re: Anybody having problems with the ethanol gas?
Posted: May 22nd, 2009, 10:53 pm
by Reel Cowboy
jadams92002 wrote: I am afraid it isn’t going any ware.
Ain't it great that you don't have a choice in the matter?

Re: Anybody having problems with the ethanol gas?
Posted: June 8th, 2009, 9:28 pm
by jadams92002
Ok, some new info on Ethanol. If you want to try to avoid E10 stations then you need to buy from BP. The price is normally a cent or two more than the others, but as of right now none of the BP stores in our area have E10. It is rumor that instead of 87 octane they are going to try 85 octane and with the ethanol blend it up to 87 octane. They have already started doing this in other parts of the country, but it hasn’t been made official here in the South. I will try to keep you updated.
PS: You may want to make sure that the BP store in your area doesn’t have E10 before you fill up.
Re: Anybody having problems with the ethanol gas?
Posted: June 9th, 2009, 10:31 pm
by Sea Spot
I'm having the same problem Bay gator with my 130 yamaha.