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Re: Whatcha think about him now :-)
Posted: June 1st, 2011, 7:19 pm
by GaryDroze
While in the Air Force, I pissed into them regularly. Currently, as a coach, teacher, and bus driver, I am subject to tests at any time. How about you?
Re: Whatcha think about him now :-)
Posted: June 1st, 2011, 7:30 pm
by Jumptrout51
1. If you have to do it to keep a job,why shouldn't others have to do it to receive assistance? (Especially if many of those receiving assistance have never had a JOB. AND it is MY money and YOUR money going to them.
2. I work for myself,I cannot afford drugs and my lifestyle at the same time.
3. Beer(Coors Light) excepted.
4. I think the "give the bucks to a designated person named by the drug abuser" is unacceptable. It should be stopped until they can hire someone else to pee for them.
5. Did I actually say that?
Re: Whatcha think about him now :-)
Posted: June 1st, 2011, 7:49 pm
by GaryDroze
You are not going to get this, but my argument is that many extremely rich folks who get giant tax breaks will never be tested for drugs. Why not? They bought their legislators, fair and square. I'm saying that if you are going to bust citizens for drugs, bust ALL of them (not just the poor,who can't afford lawyers). Jumptrout, I don't advocate letting the poor off the hook. I just want the fat cats to be subject to the same code of justice. If you think they are, we are too far apart to discuss this.
Re: Whatcha think about him now :-)
Posted: June 1st, 2011, 7:53 pm
by ferris1248
GaryDroze wrote:You are not going to get this, but my argument is that many extremely rich folks who get giant tax breaks will never be tested for drugs. Why not? They bought their legislators, fair and square. I'm saying that if you are going to bust citizens for drugs, bust ALL of them (not just the poor,who can't afford lawyers). Jumptrout, I don't advocate letting the poor off the hook. I just want the fat cats to be subject to the same code of justice. If you think they are, we are too far apart to discuss this.
Define "Fat Cat".
Re: Whatcha think about him now :-)
Posted: June 1st, 2011, 7:58 pm
by FUTCHCAIRO
HEY MRAQUATICS, IF YOU EVER GET TO 75 YOU WILL BE LUCKY, BY THEN YOU WILL NOT EVEN KNOW YOUR NAME, I MADE AN ERROR, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN 3.78 PERCENTAGE. THE OLD MAN HAS BEEN AROUND TOOOOOO LONG BUT I CAN STILL SPELL MY NAME
Re: Whatcha think about him now :-)
Posted: June 1st, 2011, 8:10 pm
by FUTCHCAIRO
Re: Whatcha think about him now :-)
Posted: June 1st, 2011, 8:13 pm
by Barhopr
GaryDroze wrote:You are not going to get this, but my argument is that many extremely rich folks who get giant tax breaks will never be tested for drugs. Why not? They bought their legislators, fair and square. I'm saying that if you are going to bust citizens for drugs, bust ALL of them (not just the poor,who can't afford lawyers). Jumptrout, I don't advocate letting the poor off the hook. I just want the fat cats to be subject to the same code of justice. If you think they are, we are too far apart to discuss this.
Oh my Lord! You just suggested that a private citizen that receives no public assistance be tested for drugs just like someone that solely relies on it as there only source of income. I always knew there were people like you out there I just have never met one since I spend 6.5 days a week at work.
How about this for an idea: Before anyone can and continue to receive unemployment benefits, they too must maintain a clear drug screening.
Don't get me wrong if you want to use illegal drugs or abuse legal ones, knock yourself out, but don't expect me as a fat cat (read tax payer) to have to help pay for it.
Re: Whatcha think about him now :-)
Posted: June 1st, 2011, 8:14 pm
by GaryDroze
Ferris1248:
By "Fat Cat" I am referring to those who have an unearned position of power or entitlement. Relatives, friends, and business associates of state senators, representatives, and appointees are the most obvious examples.
Re: Whatcha think about him now :-)
Posted: June 1st, 2011, 8:31 pm
by GaryDroze
Barhopr: Congrats on being an extremely rich person who gets giant tax breaks. I did not "suggest" as you say, but was very specific. If you are not an extremely rich person who gets giant tax breaks, my post did not pertain to you.
We may have something in common. I work about 60 hours a week, which is perhaps a bit less than you.
Re: Whatcha think about him now :-)
Posted: June 1st, 2011, 8:49 pm
by wishfishin
GaryDroze wrote:To Showboat,
As an Independent who considers the Republicans and Democrats equally corrupt, my problem with Scott's ruling is very precise. Specifically, he has targeted the least powerful of those benefitting from government handouts. If you are a welfare recipient or low-level state worker, you must pee into a cup. If you are a corporate beneficiary of a lucrative tax exemption (I challenge you to convince me how this differs from welfare), or if you are a Florida senator or representative, you get a pass.
Bottom line: those with clout have nothing to worry about. Business as usual.
It differs greatly. That corporation with, in your words, a "lucrative tax exemption" probably employs someone close to you and many others who are productive income earners and taxpayers. Career welfare recipients are parasites who drain the system of tax dollars provided by those productive citizens. Tax dollars that could be spent on infrastucture, protective services and the greatest military in the world.
Re: Whatcha think about him now :-)
Posted: June 1st, 2011, 8:52 pm
by CairoTrout
OMG! Gary have you lost your mind?Why would you talk like this? Why would you give a rich man a drug test? He got rich by WORKING, not sucking off of us. This is crazy! Why not give a giant tax break, the majority of rich people give graciously back to their community, how many people on welfare give back, all they do is take, take, and take. These comments are just stupid!
Re: Whatcha think about him now :-)
Posted: June 1st, 2011, 8:54 pm
by CairoTrout
Tax breaks are way diffrent than welfare, if you didn't know.
Re: Whatcha think about him now :-)
Posted: June 1st, 2011, 9:02 pm
by Jumptrout51
I work as many days straight as work allows.
I sit home many days straight if the phone does not ring.
I eat steak and lobster when the phone rings.
I am lucky to have something to eat if the phone does not ring.
I do not drive a Escalade.
I do not have a LARGE flat screen TV.
I do not do drugs,buy drugs,sell drugs.
I do not rob and kill my neighbors.
I do not have multiple illegitimate children on the dole(that I know of).
I do not pee in a cup.
I do believe people my money goes to and do not do the things that I do,should pee in a cup.
I do believe in fairness and forgiveness.
Fail the test once,shame on me.
Fail the test twice,shame on you forever.
Re: Whatcha think about him now :-)
Posted: June 1st, 2011, 9:05 pm
by Reel Cowboy
Jumptrout51 wrote:.
I do not do drugs,buy drugs.
A man your age probably should.
Re: Whatcha think about him now :-)
Posted: June 1st, 2011, 9:24 pm
by CairoTrout
I agree!