Scalloping death
Posted: July 17th, 2009, 10:06 pm
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Re: Scalloping death
Posted: July 17th, 2009, 10:13 pm
Ya'll be careful out there. Remember those dive flags and keep somebody on the boat as a look out of sorts.
Re: Scalloping death
Posted: July 17th, 2009, 10:35 pm
I'm guessing alcohol may have been involved. I'm hoping shit hits the fan for that deck boat.
Re: Scalloping death
Posted: July 18th, 2009, 1:26 pm
Terrible, but I am not shocked. I am taking the scout troop, but I am taking off Wednesday to take them so that I can avoid the weekend crowd.
I ain't judging this until I hear more facts. I've seen as many folks without dive flags and too far away from their flags as I have seen crazy boat drivers.
I ain't judging this until I hear more facts. I've seen as many folks without dive flags and too far away from their flags as I have seen crazy boat drivers.
Re: Scalloping death
Posted: July 18th, 2009, 1:40 pm
Re: Scalloping death
Posted: July 18th, 2009, 2:09 pm
At St Joe bay last weekend (thin scallops and small) I saw and was affected by some of the worst boating etiquette and behavior I have ever seen. This included, but was not limited to 1) boats running WOT within 50 yrs of other boats, 2) boats running WOT through drifts and scalloping flags, 3) massive amounts of people on very small boats. I also saw several boats being towed (some by much smaller boats). I am actually surprised there are not more accidents than reported. I love scalloping, but HATE scallop season, if that makes any sense.
Re: Scalloping death
Posted: July 18th, 2009, 2:37 pm
Makes perfect sense.BrogensDuck wrote:I love scalloping, but HATE scallop season, if that makes any sense.
Re: Scalloping death
Posted: July 18th, 2009, 6:15 pm
From that article:
Information about Sheppard’s proximity to his boat at the time and the type of divers-down flag that was in use was not immediately available.
Re: Scalloping death
Posted: July 18th, 2009, 6:38 pm
Those guys were out in force at Lanark last Saturday too. Twice I was scalloping with the flag flying high and had boats run by me WOT close enough that I could read the numbers off their hulls.BrogensDuck wrote:I saw and was affected by some of the worst boating etiquette and behavior I have ever seen. This included, but was not limited to 1) boats running WOT within 50 yrs of other boats, 2) boats running WOT through drifts and scalloping flags
On the other hand there were guys out there with no boats (I guess they waded/swam out there) with 12X12 flags who I almost ran over while headed out of that mess.
Re: Scalloping death
Posted: July 19th, 2009, 6:34 pm
My prayers go out to the individual and their family.
I wish there were more "law" in the areas watching for this sort of thing, as I am surprised this doesn't happen every weekend during scalloping season.
I LOVE scalloping, but it is dangerous, as some people just choose to ignore the flags and go WOT through the whole group.
I sometimes hate getting in the middle of the crowd and trying to idle my way out while looking for divers. I can't imagine trying to go WOT through all of that!
I wish there were more "law" in the areas watching for this sort of thing, as I am surprised this doesn't happen every weekend during scalloping season.
I LOVE scalloping, but it is dangerous, as some people just choose to ignore the flags and go WOT through the whole group.
I sometimes hate getting in the middle of the crowd and trying to idle my way out while looking for divers. I can't imagine trying to go WOT through all of that!
Re: Scalloping death
Posted: July 20th, 2009, 8:52 am
SJB this weekend was unbelievable; people running right through the flotilla. Forgot I had my parents with me for a second and let some choice words fly at one skiff. FWC was out there and peformed some safety checks, but I never saw them approach anyone who wasn't anchored. From my perspective, even if some of the anchored folks weren't in full compliance, it was the idiots running between them that were creating the greatest danager.BrogensDuck wrote:At St Joe bay last weekend (thin scallops and small) I saw and was affected by some of the worst boating etiquette and behavior I have ever seen. This included, but was not limited to 1) boats running WOT within 50 yrs of other boats, 2) boats running WOT through drifts and scalloping flags, 3) massive amounts of people on very small boats. I also saw several boats being towed (some by much smaller boats). I am actually surprised there are not more accidents than reported. I love scalloping, but HATE scallop season, if that makes any sense.
Re: Scalloping death
Posted: July 20th, 2009, 9:22 am
I think a lot of scallopers need to remember the regs for Diver Down activities.
From FWC website:
From FWC website:
Divers-down Flag
* The size of divers-down flags displayed on vessels must be at least 20 inches by 24 inches, and a stiffener is required to keep the flag unfurled. Dive flags carried on floats must be at least 12 inches by 12 inches. Also, divers-down flags on vessels must be displayed above the vessel's highest point so that the flag's visibility is not obstructed in any direction.
* Divers must make reasonable efforts to stay within 300 feet of a divers-down flag on open waters (all waterways other than rivers, inlets, or navigation channels) and within 100 feet of a flag within rivers, inlets, or navigation channels.
* Vessel operators must make a reasonable effort to maintain a distance of at least 300 feet from divers-down flags on open waters and at least 100 feet from flags on rivers, inlets or navigation channels. Vessels approaching divers-down flags closer than 300 feet in open water and 100 feet in rivers, inlets and navigation channels must slow to idle speed.
* When divers are out of the water, a dive flag may not be displayed.
Re: Scalloping death
Posted: July 21st, 2009, 9:44 am
I could have easily hit one a week or two ago because he was well outside of the 300' radius of his flag. To add to that he was scalloping in an area that is outside the legal area to do it in.
Re: Scalloping death
Posted: July 21st, 2009, 11:38 am
The 411 I just got out of Steinhatchee from a close source. The man was 600 to 800 feet away from his boat. They couldn't even tell what boat he was with. The boat that hit him was not on plane(investagaters could tell by the prop marks). Alcohol was not a factor at this point. Both good families from what I understand. 6 adults and 6 kids on the pontoon boat. A very sad event. The mother of the man that died had a heart attack the same day.
Re: Scalloping death
Posted: August 1st, 2009, 7:08 am
That is the same information I got. No charges have been or will be filed against the boat driver.ttop_guy wrote:The 411 I just got out of Steinhatchee from a close source. The man was 600 to 800 feet away from his boat. They couldn't even tell what boat he was with. The boat that hit him was not on plane(investagaters could tell by the prop marks). Alcohol was not a factor at this point. Both good families from what I understand. 6 adults and 6 kids on the pontoon boat. A very sad event. The mother of the man that died had a heart attack the same day.
This is terrible for all involved. Let us all remember to exercise much higher caution during this time of the year when our coastline is inundated with some many people who have no experience.