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Freshwater fish ID help
Posted: March 7th, 2010, 5:21 pm
by akasephiroth
Ive been working at this place for 4 yrs. There is 2 ponds next to the job site where people will come in on weekends and fish while im here at work. Saturday a guy brought a fish up to me and asked if I knew what it was, I told him it was some type of carp and he tossed it back. There is 1 huge carp in the bigger of the 2 ponds that would range between 30-40lb's easy ive only got a look at him from the bank in the water but after seeing this smaller version its made me wonder what kind of carp is this? I did a little searching and found some info on a rudd this is what the small version looked like but net says rudd are at most 3-4lbs. Is it possiable that one of these grew to monster size (if so time to set a record lol) and if not has anyone seen or heard of a type of larger carp that is just like the rudd i know a grass carp is very close but they do not have the bright red fin's like the rudd. here is a pic of the rudd i found when searching the net this is just like the fish the guy brought to me sat about the same size and all.

Re: Freshwater fish ID help
Posted: March 7th, 2010, 5:46 pm
by Harmsway
'Round Tallahasse we call that a Lake Shiner.
Got any more (live ones, that is)?

Re: Freshwater fish ID help
Posted: March 7th, 2010, 6:26 pm
by slayer
golden shiner.....sometimes people call them a"roach"......great bait for a monster bass.....
Re: Freshwater fish ID help
Posted: March 7th, 2010, 6:34 pm
by akasephiroth
What is the big one? Theres is one in this pond here that is upwards 30lb+ is that the same thing? Sorry no live one's on me, gonna head out here tommarow while im off and try to catch a small one for my son's fish tank since his gold fish died.
Re: Freshwater fish ID help
Posted: March 7th, 2010, 9:04 pm
by Jumptrout51
aka redhorse shiner.
Re: Freshwater fish ID help
Posted: March 7th, 2010, 9:29 pm
by RHTFISH
Lake Jackson big bass favorite in 70s!!!!!!!
Re: Freshwater fish ID help
Posted: March 7th, 2010, 9:59 pm
by Chill-N-Grill
We always called them orange lake shiners. We used to catch them in lake Jackson when I was a kid. Great Big Bass bait...
Re: Freshwater fish ID help
Posted: March 7th, 2010, 10:07 pm
by akasephiroth
From the post looks like i stumbled on something to make me give freshwater another try, maybe i should catch a few and hit up lake seminole, havent done any freshwater fishing (outside some local catfish) in 3+ yrs.
Re: Freshwater fish ID help
Posted: March 8th, 2010, 1:26 am
by Chalk
Jumptrout51 wrote:aka redhorse shiner.

Re: Freshwater fish ID help
Posted: March 8th, 2010, 7:18 am
by Flint River Pirate
Go to Seminole and put one of those shiners under a Cajun Thunder. Bass can't stand that
Re: Freshwater fish ID help
Posted: March 8th, 2010, 8:58 am
by DeanMac
Jumptrout51 wrote:aka redhorse shiner.
redhorse, was my vote before I read any post
Re: Freshwater fish ID help
Posted: March 8th, 2010, 9:10 am
by Ty one on
And also known as roaches.
Re: Freshwater fish ID help
Posted: March 8th, 2010, 10:08 am
by bman
Everyone is right - Shiner.
Hook it through the lips and out the nose.
Drift it under a cork across open water.
Or Hook it in the back- not too deep or you will kill it.
And still fish it under a cork.
Old timers- including Baily's dad and my dad - waxed their line above the cork.
Then when a bass takes it you can see what direction he has run and know how to set the hook.
They are not a tough bait so I'm not sure how they would do in an aquarium.
Ive had better luck keeping little bream alive.
Re: Freshwater fish ID help
Posted: March 8th, 2010, 10:11 am
by RHTFISH
Balloons about size of softball work great as a substitute for cork.
Somebody tell Mr. Bman using bream is illegal.....!

Re: Freshwater fish ID help
Posted: March 9th, 2010, 9:16 pm
by Charles
Years ago (late '70s?) I knew a guy that had a whole wall in his living room covered with biiig bass he took out of Lake Jackson using live shiners. He was kind of a friend of a friend of a friend, think I only ever met him twice. Once was at his house. He used a cane pole and dough balls to catch wild shiners before he went bass fishing. Said store bought shiners weren't worth a damn because they were too small and died too quick. The wild ones were tougher. He also said shiners up to 12" long weren't too big.