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Here we go again...

Posted: May 26th, 2017, 12:25 pm
by Steve Stinson
Craig's List Tally ad -

https://tallahassee.craigslist.org/boa/6148605320.html

Hello, I'm taking out charter trips out of Steinhatchee and Horseshoe Beach, if anyone would like to go fishing along the Gulf Coast. We catch mostly trout but other species as well, including mackerel, bluefish and ladyfish. Lots of fun using artificials, but we also use bait. My new aluminum skiff is 16 feet long, so I can only take two guests. I can go on fairly short notice and charge $250 total for the day, and stay out later than most boats. I'm not watching the clock. We see sharks, cobia and even tarpon out there, and can set out a heavier rod for them. We can also go ashore to eat lunch or take a break. We go after scallops too, starting in mid-June. Email with any questions.

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Posted: May 26th, 2017, 7:11 pm
by Juan
$250 and a 16' aluminum skiff? :smt005 I wonder who has to paddle.

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Posted: May 26th, 2017, 8:15 pm
by DixieReb
Is this one for real? :-?

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Posted: May 26th, 2017, 8:57 pm
by Steve Stinson
You know, if they advertise on Craig's list I assume they are expecting a reply. Both this ad and the last one were there.

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Posted: May 27th, 2017, 12:16 pm
by DixieReb
Might not be bad if it's $250 for the 2 of you. But that is a small rig to be taking clients out in.

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Posted: May 27th, 2017, 4:51 pm
by wacissaguy
Makes me wonder if he's a licensed captain.Would be in a bunch of legal hurt if he gets caught.

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Posted: May 30th, 2017, 9:29 am
by Steve Stinson
wacissaguy wrote:Makes me wonder if he's a licensed captain.Would be in a bunch of legal hurt if he gets caught.
That's my point exactly. This is a disaster waiting to happen - No training, no safety equipment, and a sixteen foot boat. Hopefully, FWC will pay him a visit and explain the laws to him.

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Posted: May 30th, 2017, 10:44 am
by DixieReb
It would make more sense just to advertise to take people out fishing and have them pay for the gas, ramp fees, and other expenses like a meal. Not advertise that he is guiding for hire. He would still be responsible for making sure whoever he takes out has their fishing license. He could go fishing and spend next to nothing and still have a good time. :smt004

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Posted: May 30th, 2017, 10:46 am
by Steve Stinson
Actually, I think the way the law reads is that if your guests pay for any portion of your trip, you are considered "for hire" and are supposed to have a Captains Lic. Now, I know that is not the way the law is enforced, but I believe that is the way that it reads.
This ad, however seems to be a blatant violation.

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Posted: May 30th, 2017, 11:23 am
by silverking
Steve is correct. If you accept compensation then you must be licensed and have all the other requirements (insurance, fishing license, drug screening, medical clearance, etc.).

Same situation as contractors, roofers, electricians or any other service providers. For guides it's a matter of competency, knowledge of navigation rules and safety as well as consumer protection.

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Posted: May 30th, 2017, 12:04 pm
by Salty Gator
Interesting, didn't know it was illegal to chip in for gas. We all know it's considered bad etiquette not to help clean the boat and not to offer to chip in for gas. I don't ask my guests for gas money even for offshore days, but I have had them buy breakfast or lunch if they insisted. But I've definitely chipped in for gas on another's boat. I wonder if anyone has been busted for accepting half the gas bill from a buddy.
So to get this straight, no chipping in on gas, ice, or bait? What about drinks and cold fried chicken?

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Posted: May 30th, 2017, 12:27 pm
by DixieReb
So, I better work on getting a captain's license since I take guys out and they help with the gas. I could have done that years ago and made some serious money! :lol:

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Posted: May 30th, 2017, 12:29 pm
by silverking
Sharing expenses between friends is not illegal. Taking someone out to fish and getting paid without the proper documentation is.

This ad has been removed from CL.

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Posted: May 30th, 2017, 3:31 pm
by CastTheFlats
Salty Gator wrote:Interesting, didn't know it was illegal to chip in for gas. We all know it's considered bad etiquette not to help clean the boat and not to offer to chip in for gas. I don't ask my guests for gas money even for offshore days, but I have had them buy breakfast or lunch if they insisted. But I've definitely chipped in for gas on another's boat. I wonder if anyone has been busted for accepting half the gas bill from a buddy.
So to get this straight, no chipping in on gas, ice, or bait? What about drinks and cold fried chicken?
Don't charge your buddies for gas to run offshore?? Man give me a call lets fish :D
Liam

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Posted: May 30th, 2017, 6:46 pm
by Salty Gator
CastTheFlats wrote:
Salty Gator wrote:Interesting, didn't know it was illegal to chip in for gas. We all know it's considered bad etiquette not to help clean the boat and not to offer to chip in for gas. I don't ask my guests for gas money even for offshore days, but I have had them buy breakfast or lunch if they insisted. But I've definitely chipped in for gas on another's boat. I wonder if anyone has been busted for accepting half the gas bill from a buddy.
So to get this straight, no chipping in on gas, ice, or bait? What about drinks and cold fried chicken?
Don't charge your buddies for gas to run offshore?? Man give me a call lets fish :D
Liam
Come on man, got room for a Callahan ,, full disclosure we are fishing out of a 22' pathfinder. Last sat we probably burned 5-7 gallons to run out get 5 keeper gags and the 5 endangered ars. Released one of each. Then ran to dog for some socializing. I'm not running a big azz offshore sled. But when the days are right we've been known to run to 70" break out the chum churn and catch all the mangroves you want ( may burn 15-20 gallons then) Just have to pick your days