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The Boat I almost purchased.....
Posted: July 28th, 2004, 6:23 pm
by mjsigns
It has been a long hard hunt for a boat, and it has taken me
from new boats to used boats and from flat bottoms to V hulls.
I have made an offer to purchase this craft, and may close the
deal thursday.
http://www.nzfn.com/
Does anyone know anything I should know about this boat
before I sign the dotted line?

Your comments, insight
and experience in these areas would be deeply appreciated-
Thanks
MJ
Here's the boat someone else got to it before me....

Posted: July 28th, 2004, 7:23 pm
by dbplug
Looks nice. I have not heard of the make. Picture of motor uncovered has low oil level? Maybe it's just me. Have the motor checked out. Make offer(obo). Shop.
Posted: July 28th, 2004, 8:02 pm
by Eerman
Nothing to offer other than good luck and I need a ride

Posted: July 28th, 2004, 8:32 pm
by EddieJoe
MJ:
If you had the time and money, a marine surveyor would be advised, or at least a check of the motor by a mechanic. Short of that, I recommend:
1)Examine the hull for cracks, waves, or de-laminations. Rock the motor on the transom and see if it is solid.
2)open all hatches, look for problems like rotted hoses, bad clamps, or wiring.
3)try everything to see if it works. This includes all lights, electronics, pumps, steering (move the wheel around).
3)examine the fuel lines for cracks.
4)check the batteries for function and age.
5)examine the motor for rust, raise and lower the motor, run it on the hose. See if it idles evenly once it warms, idle for at least 5 minutes, to make sure it does not overheat. Ask when the impeller pump was last replaced and examine the work order to check the date. Ask to see any regular service maintenance work orders and check the dates. The foot oil should be changed every year and the pump at least every other year.
At idle, run it through the gears, and make sure the prop is turning in each direction.
6)look over the trailer for rusted springs, axle, buddy bearings, missing rollers, etc. Examine the tires for uneven wear.
7)take the boat for a test ride. On the way, see how the trailer tracks to make sure it rides evenly.
8)notice how easy the boat comes off the trailer and if it needs new rollers.
9)operate the boat for a few miles and put it through a normal operation, including forward, neutral, and reverse.
Take stock of what you have found. If it all looks good or only a few things are problems, think about it, twice, and consider an offer.
Luck,
EJ
Posted: July 28th, 2004, 9:13 pm
by Chalk
Carry the boat to a shop and have them run compression tests...
Check the hull over for patches, cracks, soft spots, etc....
Nice looking rig...needs some buffing and wax....No stern straps either....
Good Luck....

Posted: July 28th, 2004, 11:10 pm
by mjsigns
Thanks for all the help and suggestions.
I am taking it for a test drive tomorrow at Lake Talquin to
see if everything works. If you see anything anyone missed
post it !

Posted: July 29th, 2004, 6:11 am
by RodBow
You might want to go on out to Williams landing and head West from there.
I heard no one runs above the Iron Curtain which is out from Coes due to the stumpknocking. I found one on Sunday and thought I was going to eat the prop! Let the seller decide where so if anything happens....
Posted: July 29th, 2004, 7:28 am
by wevans
Boats and Personal Watercraft
1997 PRO SPORTS BOATS
1700CC
July 29, 2004
Low Retail Average Retail
Base Price
$3,040 $3,750
Options
Power Boat: CANVAS
Bimini Top: $215 $255
Power Boat: ELECTRONICS
Fish Finder - Max Depth 600': $115 $140
Radio / 25 Watt VHF - Fixed Mount: $195 $235
LOW AVERAGE
TOTAL $3,565 $4,380
..............................................................................
Outboard Motors
1997 MERCURY
90ELPTO
July 29, 2004
Low Retail Average Retail
Base Price
$2,530 $3,015
Boat Specifications
Model: 90ELPTO
Motor Type: Gasoline
Volts (Electric Motors): N/A
Thrust (Electric Motors): N/A
Horsepower: 90
Cylinders: 3
Start Type: Electric
Dry Weight: 305
Power Tilt and Trim: Yes
Boat Specifications
Length: 17'
Model Name/Description: 1700CC
Boat Type: Outboard Boats
Hull Material: Fiberglass
Beam: 6' 10"
Engine: N/A
Net Weight: 1,000
Posted: July 29th, 2004, 5:47 pm
by mjsigns
Good Job wevans!
All those numbers look familiar (from NADA blue book). I did all my homework on this one. He is asking allot, but I think the boat is worth what he's asking. I have looked in all the nooks and crannies on this one and it looks like the boat for me. It has it's share of beauty marks, but nothing major. I appreciate your investigation. How much do you think it's worth? $_____________
Anyway, we decided to do the test drive Mon or Tues because he wants to close the deal next week, instead of peace-mealing things along. I am also going to check the compression on each cylinder with a borrowed compression gauge and tools from a guy I work with.
Thanks Again-
MJ
Posted: July 29th, 2004, 6:03 pm
by wevans
From what I have seen of the boat "most the pics will not load" and from your observations of it. I would say that the asking price is decent "so long as the motor checks out"

Don't forget to check the trailer out real good "with the boat on and then with the boat off"

Posted: July 29th, 2004, 9:37 pm
by mjsigns
Wevans...... Here's the boat....
I updated the first posting, and I have been reading up on running compression testing the engine. If all cylinders are within a 3 to 5 lb's of each other, and there's no water in the foot oil.... She's mine

Posted: July 30th, 2004, 5:32 am
by tin can
Can't tell for sure, but if that's the VHF radio I think it is, you might want to consider replacing it. It isn't water proof. Other than that, the rig looks solid.

Posted: July 30th, 2004, 6:41 am
by dstockwell
Looks good, just needs a gooood cleanin.

Posted: July 30th, 2004, 6:11 pm
by Eerman
So are congratulations in order??
buying boat
Posted: July 30th, 2004, 8:48 pm
by ALMAR
A FISHING FRIEND OF MINE HAS ONE JUST LIKE IT. THE BOAT IS A GREAT BOAT, SOLID AS NAILS. ONLY PROBLEM I CAN SEE IS THE BLACK THING ON THE BACK OF THE BOAT, OF COURSE I AM PARTIAL TO O.M.C. IF YOU CAN GET THE PACKAGE FOR LESS THAN $5,000.00 AND THE MOTOR CHECKS OUT O.K. I WOULD SAY GRAB IT.
THE OLD MAN OF THE SEA
PA