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Preferred retrieve rate for lures

Posted: June 16th, 2020, 8:41 am
by PhishingNole
I'm picking out a new baitcaster (curado K) and there are several options for gear ratio. There is not a lot of information out there on optimal retrieve speeds for different baits.

Do you guys have a preference on gear ratio ( or more specifically, retrieved inches per crank) for topwater vs. paddletail vs. Spoon?

Is a super fast gear ratio (31 or 36 inches per crank) a good thing for walking the dog or do you prefer a slower retrieve? Soft plastics?

Thanks.

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Re: Preferred retrieve rate for lures

Posted: June 16th, 2020, 9:01 am
by tailwaters
For inshore use I would personally go with a reel that retrieves 36" per turn vs something less. A lower gear is good to have when fighting bigger fish but not as important on trout and reds. Also a lot of times when fishing you will spot a fish but before you can make a cast you need to reel in. Having the higher gear ratio allows you to get that lure back a little quicker and somethings those extra seconds make all the difference.

Re: Preferred retrieve rate for lures

Posted: June 16th, 2020, 1:24 pm
by GhostRanger169
Too high gear ratio can make it harder to walk the dog(rod twitch length vs handle turn rate), but for almost everything else higher rate is better

Re: Preferred retrieve rate for lures

Posted: June 16th, 2020, 1:43 pm
by rockyg
My preferred rate for a bait-caster is cast, pull out birds nest for 5 minutes while fish swim by, throw baitcaster overboard, pull out my Stradic and get busy. lol

Re: Preferred retrieve rate for lures

Posted: June 16th, 2020, 2:12 pm
by PhishingNole
rockyg wrote:My preferred rate for a bait-caster is cast, pull out birds nest for 5 minutes while fish swim by, throw baitcaster overboard, pull out my Stradic and get busy. lol
Haha, I know the feeling.

I have a Stradic and I like it well enough, but I just throw the baitcaster more accurately and easily, especially from a kayak.

This will actually be my first low profile baitcaster. I've fished old school Abu Ambassadeur reels (grew up on lake O catching catfish and Bass) since I was a kid.

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Re: Preferred retrieve rate for lures

Posted: June 16th, 2020, 4:00 pm
by Juan
KastKing Speed Demon 9.3:1. 13 bearings, 39.1 inches per turn. Fastest baitcaster on the market and it's only $49.99. I've actually had to slow down my cranking speed with most lures but it's perfect for spinner baits and would make a good first baitcaster.

Re: Preferred retrieve rate for lures

Posted: June 16th, 2020, 5:05 pm
by silverking
I have several Shimano bait casters that I use exclusively for plug fishing. My normal go-to is a Chronarch 151 HG, which is the higher gear ratio. It works very well for Skitter Walks, Top Dogs, Spooks, etc. I also use it for suspenders like Paul Browns and UnFair Rip-n-Slash. I can retrieve quicker to re-cast, but it's not so fast that I out-crank the plug on a walk-the-dog surface retrieve. I used it when I owned my kayak.

I also have a Chronarch CI4 on a shorter rod. It is the normal gear ratio and the difference is not really that noticeable to me. I have used it some with spinnerbait rigs and swim baits.

The Curado K is a quality reel and I don't think you'll go wrong with either choice for inshore kayak duty.

Re: Preferred retrieve rate for lures

Posted: June 16th, 2020, 10:56 pm
by doomtrpr_z71
7.3 is my go to retrieve ratio, it's not too fast, not too slow, plus on daiwa reels 7.3 is trimmed in red. The 7.3 tends to stay smoother longer whereas the faster ratios tend to feel Geary.

Re: Preferred retrieve rate for lures

Posted: June 17th, 2020, 7:50 am
by dropaline
I am with Juan, like my kast kings

Re: Preferred retrieve rate for lures

Posted: June 17th, 2020, 9:47 am
by Juan
dropaline wrote:I am with Juan, like my kast kings
Be careful. We're the minority. :-D

Re: Preferred retrieve rate for lures

Posted: June 18th, 2020, 7:13 am
by dombern34
go with the curado K in the 7 ratio, it's just a good happy medium speed. you can also control your "reel speed" you just want to make sure you can pick up enough line to properly control everything.