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Pics Show Red Snapper in 90 to 100'--Carrabelle, July 15, 2024

Posted: July 17th, 2024, 12:11 pm
by John21:6
How far and how deep do you need to go to find and catch red snapper is a question on my mind this time of year. Many think that when there’s heat, you must go deep. However, some friends recently caught fish in less than 100’. Being tired of 30+ mile runs offshore, I decided to do the same last Monday. My underwater videos from the trip, show that large red snapper rule the reefs and hard bottom areas in 90-100’ off Carrabelle. It’s another matter, however, to get them to take a hook.

Live bottom and hard bottom areas are covered in tomtates and cigar minnows. Large red snapper cruise above and through these bait schools. Here’s what it looks like:
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Despite finding the red snapper, we could not get them to bite our live bait, which consisted of cigar minnows, sandperch, and pinfish, or our frozen LYs. Maybe the red snapper couldn’t find our baits in the midst of all the other bait fish swimming around. Maybe we were fishing at the wrong time of day, moon phase, or point in the tide cycle. Maybe the snapper were too full to eat another bite.
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The red grouper, however, had no trouble finding our baits which were usually a couple cranks of the reel from the bottom. We could have sunk the boat with the weight of all the red grouper we caught. (Maybe they are overpopulated, FWC, and the season should be reopened.) One of these red grouper got sheared off behind the gills on the way up. It made a bloody mess of the boat.

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Most of our red snapper rigs consisted of a 3-way swivel tied to the main line with an 8 oz. bank weight at the bottom and 4’ of fluorocarbon leader to the side. The chicken rig produced most of the lane snapper. A knocker rig weighted with a 1.5 oz. to 3 oz. egg sinker had the most bites and brought in the most mangroves. A 1 oz. weight was not enough to allow the knocker rig to reach the bottom in the current, but the heavier weights allowed the rig to reach the bottom and still bounce around. Our 150 gram Nomad Squidtrex jigs didn’t get a hit.

On the positive side, the mangrove snapper were hungry along with the lane snapper. Both taste great. Here is what we brought home:
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Re: How Far and Deep to Catch Red Snapper--July 15, 2024

Posted: July 18th, 2024, 6:47 am
by fishinfool
Always some great photos. Keep up the fine work. :thumbup: :thumbup:

Re: How Far and Deep to Catch Red Snapper--July 15, 2024

Posted: July 18th, 2024, 8:43 am
by John21:6
fishinfool wrote: July 18th, 2024, 6:47 am Always some great photos. Keep up the fine work. :thumbup: :thumbup:
Thanks, Jim.

It was great chatting with you at your rod and reel repair shop in Midway by the Talon range a few weeks ago.

Re: How Far and Deep to Catch Red Snapper--July 15, 2024

Posted: July 18th, 2024, 8:54 am
by doomtrpr_z71
Cool shots with all that bait, makes me feel better about not being able to get them to bite on our last trip.

Re: How Far and Deep to Catch Red Snapper--July 15, 2024

Posted: July 18th, 2024, 9:30 am
by John21:6
doomtrpr_z71 wrote: July 18th, 2024, 8:54 am Cool shots with all that bait, makes me feel better about not being able to get them to bite on our last trip.
Part of my reason for posting about Monday's trip was to see if anyone has some ideas on what I could do differently aside from spending more time fishing and less time fiddling with cameras. If anyone has some thoughts on effective snapper strategies when there is so much bait around, please share or PM me.

Re: How Far and Deep to Catch Red Snapper--July 15, 2024

Posted: July 18th, 2024, 2:34 pm
by boomhauer
That’s what we see back east some. There will be one or two sows on a spot…. We are divers so don’t fish them too much. With all that bait I can see why they wouldn’t bite. Where you see the numerous smaller RS, you probably won’t find big ones there.
You are correct that the sows dominate the reef they are at.
It is good to see all that bait though.
I think the stock is still doing well based on diver observations to the west which is historically RS territory.
The schools move back and forth east and west…

Trying to get gulf council to look at a reef aggregate….. keep your first two keeper snapper or grouper whatever they are…. You would have brought home a RG or two.

Re: How Far and Deep to Catch Red Snapper--July 15, 2024

Posted: July 18th, 2024, 2:50 pm
by John21:6
boomhauer wrote: July 18th, 2024, 2:34 pm That’s what we see back east some. There will be one or two sows on a spot…. We are divers so don’t fish them too much. With all that bait I can see why they wouldn’t bite. Where you see the numerous smaller RS, you probably won’t find big ones there.
You are correct that the sows dominate the reef they are at.
It is good to see all that bait though.
I think the stock is still doing well based on diver observations to the west which is historically RS territory.
The schools move back and forth east and west…

Trying to get gulf council to look at a reef aggregate….. keep your first two keeper snapper or grouper whatever they are…. You would have brought home a RG or two.
Thanks Boomhauer. Your insights from a diver's perspective are always interesting and helpful. A sonar gives me just a little information about what's really below the boat and the camera provides a little more information, but they can't match what a diver's eyes see.

Re: How Far and Deep to Catch Red Snapper--July 15, 2024

Posted: July 20th, 2024, 7:28 pm
by boomhauer
How do I post photo… I have screen shots of single
RS marks.