Someone build a better mouse trap...
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Someone build a better mouse trap...
Okay - I know some folks on here have the minds for this but I just don't have it so lets go - we can improve on Cajun Thunders (hope they're not a sponsor).
I was spooling up a spinner with some new Power Pro (don't ask me why - I never have time to fish anymore) and I thought the line wasn't on ther tight enough so I decided to just take the rod out back with a CT tied to the mainline (PP) and wing it, reel it back with the 'drag' of the CT in the grass the line would spool up tight [this works btw for tightening PP on the spool].
Anyway I got out back and let fly with just the CT tied to the mainline (no leader, no jighead) and it absloutly FLEW. One of the longest casts I have ever unleashed. I was actually stunned - a little tree which I was sure was out of range got cleared by this streaking neon CT.
I reeled back in and paced backwards as far as I could go - I tried to cut loose another monster cast but was too agressive on my upward trajectory. The CT got caught in a BIG tree and was hanging down in its neon glory about 30 feet above ground level.
Anyway - I have been trying to think on how to make a CT that somehow casts while right down next to the jighead and then allows adjustable leader length once it hits the water. This way an angler could cast it very far and eliminate the helicopter effect that seems to cut down on casting distance. I can't think of anything that would work well. Yet.
ps- I got that CT out of the tree very gingerly as the Mrs. wouldn't like a neon cork hanging 30 feet above the manicured yard.
I was spooling up a spinner with some new Power Pro (don't ask me why - I never have time to fish anymore) and I thought the line wasn't on ther tight enough so I decided to just take the rod out back with a CT tied to the mainline (PP) and wing it, reel it back with the 'drag' of the CT in the grass the line would spool up tight [this works btw for tightening PP on the spool].
Anyway I got out back and let fly with just the CT tied to the mainline (no leader, no jighead) and it absloutly FLEW. One of the longest casts I have ever unleashed. I was actually stunned - a little tree which I was sure was out of range got cleared by this streaking neon CT.
I reeled back in and paced backwards as far as I could go - I tried to cut loose another monster cast but was too agressive on my upward trajectory. The CT got caught in a BIG tree and was hanging down in its neon glory about 30 feet above ground level.
Anyway - I have been trying to think on how to make a CT that somehow casts while right down next to the jighead and then allows adjustable leader length once it hits the water. This way an angler could cast it very far and eliminate the helicopter effect that seems to cut down on casting distance. I can't think of anything that would work well. Yet.
ps- I got that CT out of the tree very gingerly as the Mrs. wouldn't like a neon cork hanging 30 feet above the manicured yard.
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What if you stuck a small piece of wire down into the top-side of the cork and let it protrude out just a bit in an upwards angle from the top and slightly to the side off center of the cork. Then when you get ready to cast, place the eye of your jig-head or hook over the wire. This should keep all of the weight together and eliminate the pendulum effect. If you modify this until it stays together through a cast, it should easily separate when it hits the water.
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I make or express no warranty in any way on the above idea, and shall not be held accountable in any way for any damages arising from the use of this idea, or any damages to any neighbors windows, homes or vehicles. Use at your on risk. If however this idea works well for you, I will expect a $.05 royalty fee for each cast, to be paid monthly on an honorary basis.
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If instead of a wire you had a hollow metal tube through the cork then you could run the leader through the tube and use a stop knot above the cork on the leader to set the depth. When you cast the cork would fall down against the jig,
The only problem would be that the jig would pull all the way up against the cork when you jerked or retrieved you line.
Also the biggest problem I have with them is the wire getting bent. If you bent that tube you would be #@!%.
The only problem would be that the jig would pull all the way up against the cork when you jerked or retrieved you line.
Also the biggest problem I have with them is the wire getting bent. If you bent that tube you would be #@!%.
These aren't exactly cajun thunders, but I'm sure they'd cast farther. If anyone is interested I could get my hands on some.
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Use a plastic tube like the one that comes with a can of WD-40. That would just about eliminate any worry of the tube getting bent.
That pendulum effect can be mitigated by casting technique. Instead of casting normally, slow down and just kind of sling it, sidearm. The length of the arc gets the jig moving faster than the CT. As it flies through the air, the jig should be pulling the CT. This may not give much more distance, because you're not putting as much effort into the cast, but with a little practice it should eliminate the pendulum effect.
There is another technique where you swing the rig around in a circle over your head 3-4 times to build velocity, then do the sidearm sling.
Either way the idea is to keep the rod and rig fairly straight, from the rod butt to the jig, as you're coming around for that final casting stroke.
Said another way, you don't want the rod to load like it would for casting a single weighted thing on the end of the line. This puts the jig behind the CT. On release the jig wants to fly past the CT, pulling the CT past the jig, pulling the jig past the CT, etc. This is bad ju-ju with a casting rod and will lead to a guaranteed backlash, which is how I learned to used these techniques to cast a jig and popping cork quite a numbers of years before there was any such thing as a CT.
That pendulum effect can be mitigated by casting technique. Instead of casting normally, slow down and just kind of sling it, sidearm. The length of the arc gets the jig moving faster than the CT. As it flies through the air, the jig should be pulling the CT. This may not give much more distance, because you're not putting as much effort into the cast, but with a little practice it should eliminate the pendulum effect.
There is another technique where you swing the rig around in a circle over your head 3-4 times to build velocity, then do the sidearm sling.
Either way the idea is to keep the rod and rig fairly straight, from the rod butt to the jig, as you're coming around for that final casting stroke.
Said another way, you don't want the rod to load like it would for casting a single weighted thing on the end of the line. This puts the jig behind the CT. On release the jig wants to fly past the CT, pulling the CT past the jig, pulling the jig past the CT, etc. This is bad ju-ju with a casting rod and will lead to a guaranteed backlash, which is how I learned to used these techniques to cast a jig and popping cork quite a numbers of years before there was any such thing as a CT.
This is the technique Chalk uses. I don't reccommend it. He's broken almost everything in my boat over 2' above the floor.Charles Pulley wrote: There is another technique where you swing the rig around in a circle over your head 3-4 times to build velocity, then do the sidearm sling.
What was I supposed to do today?
Ya'll are simply depending too much on the CT. Just remove it, add a fluorocarbon leader and your jig. Problem solved, no more helicopter action . Vary your retrieve to maximize or minimize your water depth and jig action.
Works for me...
Works for me...
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As Charles so eloquently put it, technique is everything I can't tell ya, but I can show ya I very seldom have any problem with the CT now, but it did take a bit of time trying different technique's to get it down pat
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In some places he's known as Turbo Cast. ....not Tin Can!
I've actually observed when he's in the front..... that the bow of the boat will lift just a bit when he gets the max RPM's before the release.
I've actually observed when he's in the front..... that the bow of the boat will lift just a bit when he gets the max RPM's before the release.
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