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Fly Knots/Set up

Posted: January 26th, 2006, 3:30 pm
by Littoral
Hi All, Too many questions here but please help!
I have never done this so I need direction on the right knots to set up my new fly rod. I have a 8wt TiCr and a Tioga 8wt Large Arbor reel. My plan is to use 30-50 pound Power Pro as backing. I use PP all the time so I know most of the issues with it but I still need clear direction on which knots to use for all connections, simplier the better. I love the J-knot (a surgeons verision for braid) and would like to use it on as many connections as possible.
This is a link to the J-knot -it's an awesome knot:
http://www.stren.com/knot10.htm
I also need a good way to figure out how much of the PP should fit as backing (without making 4-5 loops around the backyard). Also, can/should I use mono for leader/butt section and then flouro for tippet?
Please Help!

Posted: January 26th, 2006, 3:42 pm
by Chalk

Posted: January 26th, 2006, 5:12 pm
by RC
I always use loops in my flylines. I attach the backing and the leaders loop to loop. This makes it easy to change both flylines and leaders. There are many ways to create a loop in the flyline. The main thing is to make it smooth where it will go both ways through the eyes without hanging up. Check out some flyfishing websites.

Put your flyline on your reel and then the backing to fill it up. Then use a couple of old reel spools and a cordless drill to reverse it. If you have two reels of the same size load one and then reverse it onto the one you want to use.

Posted: January 27th, 2006, 12:27 pm
by SIGN4U
RC wrote:
Put your flyline on your reel and then the backing to fill it up. Then use a couple of old reel spools and a cordless drill to reverse it. If you have two reels of the same size load one and then reverse it onto the one you want to use.
Thanks, never though of that.

Posted: January 27th, 2006, 1:07 pm
by Littoral
Very much appreciated!!!

Posted: January 27th, 2006, 3:55 pm
by NoleFear
I always use loops in my fly lines. I attach the backing and the leaders loop to loop
All for the loops... One thing I've learned, instead of tying a loop on the butt section or leader end of the fly line, is to nail knot a short piece of 50lb mono (6 to 10 inches) to the fly line and then tie the loop in the mono. This prevents the fly line from chafing and wearing out so quick where the two loops (fly line/mono) meet, instead you have a mono to mono loop that last alot longer.

Posted: January 27th, 2006, 4:55 pm
by noleflyfisher
NoleFear wrote: One thing I've learned, instead of tying a loop on the butt section or leader end of the fly line, is to nail knot a short piece of 50lb mono (6 to 10 inches) to the fly line and then tie the loop in the mono. This prevents the fly line from chafing and wearing out so quick where the two loops (fly line/mono) meet, instead you have a mono to mono loop that last alot longer.
What he said. :thumbup:

Posted: January 27th, 2006, 5:20 pm
by RC
Actually all my fly lines are rigged with a mono loop. I just didn't want to get things too complicated right off the bat.

I usually let the fly shop that I am buying the line at rig them. Each one of them has a little different way of doing it and they all think the way they do it is the best way there is. If, when you buy the line, you ask for a little advice on how to rig it the salesperson usually will be glad to show you how well he can tie those special knots. Tell them what a good job they are doing and let them have at it. If you don't like what they do you can always re-do it when you get home.

In my opinion there are many ways to skin a cat. Each time I learn something new.

On my line to backing loop I usually make a small loop in the flyline and whip finish it with dacron or spectra backing material. Coat it with a little Sally Hansons hard as nails and let dry. I then tie a large loop in the backing. The reason for the large loop is where you can attach your flyline by running the backing loop through the small loop, then around the reel, then snug it down on the flyline. Try it. You will see what I am talking about.

Posted: January 29th, 2006, 10:45 pm
by qoutrage
Hey Lit, guess ya gonna put all the above info to good use.
I woulda tried to give you some pointers, but most of my fly fishing has been in the trout streams of N Ga. Ya don't need any backing to speak of up there. I do have a couple of cheapo rods for bream fishing here, but haven't had the time to use them in a while.
Good luck with it, and we'll be looking forward some good reports soon. :D