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Obama Seeks Assault Weapons Ban

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I noticed they are propagating stories using the violence of mexican drug cartels and how they use Straws (Folks paid to buy assualt weapons legally) to purchase assault weapons in the US and bring them to Mexico. If thats the case why don't they ban cars and trucks too. Maybe they should search cars going into Mexico. This certainly fits the agenda that everyone knew would be on a socialist agenda. Where does the ban stop after assault weapons? Mexican Drug Cartels are already breaking laws, so what good comes from banning legal minded citizens from buying them. Enforce the borders and do not punish legal gun holders for illegal criminals that will continue to get the illegal weapons.
The Ban Expired in 2004 During the Bush Administration.
By JASON RYAN
WASHINGTON, Feb. 25, 2009—


The Obama administration will seek to reinstate the assault weapons ban that expired in 2004 during the Bush administration, Attorney General Eric Holder said today.

"As President Obama indicated during the campaign, there are just a few gun-related changes that we would like to make, and among them would be to reinstitute the ban on the sale of assault weapons," Holder told reporters.

Holder said that putting the ban back in place would not only be a positive move by the United States, it would help cut down on the flow of guns going across the border into Mexico, which is struggling with heavy violence among drug cartels along the border.

"I think that will have a positive impact in Mexico, at a minimum." Holder said at a news conference on the arrest of more than 700 people in a drug enforcement crackdown on Mexican drug cartels operating in the U.S.

Mexican government officials have complained that the availability of sophisticated guns from the United States have emboldened drug traffickers to fight over access routes into the U.S.

A State Department travel warning issued Feb. 20, 2009, reflected government concerns about the violence.

"Some recent Mexican army and police confrontations with drug cartels have resembled small-unit combat, with cartels employing automatic weapons and grenades," the warning said. "Large firefights have taken place in many towns and cities across Mexico, but most recently in northern Mexico, including Tijuana, Chihuahua City and Ciudad Juarez."

At the news conference today, Holder described his discussions with his Mexican counterpart about the recent spike in violence.

"I met yesterday with Attorney General Medina Mora of Mexico, and we discussed the unprecedented levels of violence his country is facing because of their enforcement efforts," he said.

Holder declined to offer any time frame for the reimplementation of the assault weapons ban, however.

"It's something, as I said, that the president talked about during the campaign," he said. "There are obviously a number of things that are -- that have been taking up a substantial amount of his time, and so, I'm not sure exactly what the sequencing will be."


In a brief interview with ABC News, Wayne LaPierre, president of the National Rifle Association, said, "I think there are a lot of Democrats on Capitol Hill cringing at Eric Holder's comments right now."

During his confirmation hearing, Holder told the Senate Judiciary Committee about other gun control measures the Obama administration may consider.

"I think closing the gun show loophole, the banning of cop-killer bullets and I also think that making the assault weapons ban permanent, would be something that would be permitted under Heller," Holder said, referring to the Supreme Court ruling in Washington, D.C. v. Heller, which asserted the Second Amendment as an individual's right to own a weapon.

The Assault Weapons Ban signed into law by President Clinton in 1994 banned 19 types of semi-automatic military-style guns and ammunition clips with more than 10 rounds.

"A semi-automatic is a quintessential self-defense firearm owned by American citizens in this country," LaPierre said. "I think it is clearly covered under Heller and it's clearly, I think, protected by the Constitution."
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I don't rightly care what they do to each other in Mexico, not really my problem. But sense they've been sooo good to the US, then maybe we should ban them to them out. I mean they gave us how many people and the medical, engineering and technological advancements that have come from Mexico are worth a freedom or 2 right?
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I can just see the drug lords and gangs cryin in the streets, cause they can't buy their assault rifles legally anymore :smt011 :smt011
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If you haven't joined the NRA yet, now is the time to do so. Let's support our voice in DC on this issue. They are a powerful lobby only because of the millions of us they represent.
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I would like some in put on this issue, were do we draw the line as far as gun control. Lets say we erased all gun laws from the books, what limitations, if any would you folks or the Nra support. We discuss this in Government class, its is interesting debate. My wife works at a hospital here in Chattanooga, and we had two people from Spain to come and stay with us during their visit. One of them was shocked when he seen my guns. He had never seen a real one. You cannot own guns acording to him. He did say some provisions are made for hunters. I know if some liberals had there way that is were we would be, and I also know if some neocons had there way a five year old could walk into a Walmart and buy an assalt rifle. Were do you guys stand?
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I have never seen anything that the government regulated for personal use that has worked out. Alcohol, drugs or guns. As a law abiding citizen, I should be able to own any weapon I chose under the 2nd amendment to the constitution. Only people pushing for gun regulation are crooks and idiots. The crooks gonna get them anyway and the idiots don't know what to do with them anyway.
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I see what your saying, with that being said should we let people drive a car without a license, or drive drunk. Open strip clubs were ever, sell beer were ever to who ever no mater the age. We know kids can still get beer so should we just go ahead and sell it to them. See my point, these are some of the higher order thinking skills we discuss in the classroom. I have just always been curious to were the NRA would draw the line. Politics aside.
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If criminals have guns and they will,every law abiding citizen should have the right to bear arms to defend themselves. Where would the United States be without guns? No where.. America as you know would not exist.
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Spaniard was shocked at gun! Have you ever been to Switzerland, they have a public army and they openly carry Assault weapons in public. In Germany cops carry MP5 machine guns and think Shotguns are horrible, and yet we are indoctrinated the opposite of that. Marijuana is illegal yet readily available. We have many gun laws now, but they are not enforced, much like immigration laws. Maybe they should just enforce the present laws, or else we will be living in cities like those Mexicans live in, where outlaws can mow down law enforcement and threaten the civilian population. Why can they threaten them, because they don't have guns.
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I personally do not have a problem with background checks, permits, or age requirements, eventhough it is not necessary to be finger printed, pay a fee, or be 21 to exercise freedom of speech; a right so often invoked by those that advocate 2nd ammendment restrictions. I do have a problem with the fact that my 2nd amendment rights vary from state to state and city to city. I believe that our forefathers intended for citizens to have the right and means to defend themselves from all threats, domestic and foriegn. I also believe in innocent until proven guilty, that said, I believe anyone should be able to exercise thier right to keep and bear arms anywhere in the USA at any time until thier actions warrent consequences that restrict or revoke those rights. They are already laws and restrictions in place that address the issue of non-citizens purchasing firearms and the transportation of firearms across national borders. If the Government would protect and maintain our borders, defend the Constitution and the rights it grants to United States Citizens we would not be having this discussion nor would our Attorney General be considering restricting law abiding, voting, citizens based on the criminal actions of foriegn nationals. I prefer to keep my money,my gun, and my freedoms and let someone else keep the change.
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One idea I had was to pass a law that anyone born after 1990 has to take a hunter saftey course or a hand gun safety course before they can puchase and carry a weapon. Personally I think it should be offered in our pubic schools, because I think the second amendment, being part of the Bill of Rights is a basic part of citizenship and a big part of our heritage. I think if we could show these kids who all is affected by gun violence, maybe they might be harder to be influenced by the wrong people. If the Nra would not fight this offer concessions to the Nra as far as some of the laws we have now, laws can be removed, I think some should, I will not travel without a pistol, and and I think I should have that right no matter what state I go into. Who would want to be broke down in New Orleans at night without ole smokey.
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I agree Tennessee. Education, training, and target practice are the best/only form of gun control that works. Boy Scouts and 4-H both have excellent youth shooting programs. I helped with both programs for several years and I can see a difference in the kids after some safety instruction and some range time, not just improved shooting but a change in attitude. They began to undeerstand the responsibility that comes with using a firearm and to realize that ,while fun, guns are not toys to be taken lightly. Unfortunately I do not think we'll ever see any broad public school programs. I believe some ROTC programs do have shooting teams (I am not familiar with thier programs, but I am sure they would be excellent as well). If would be great if all kids could experience one of these programs. Scouting and 4-H programs are in most all communities and are always in need of quality adult leaders/sponsers. I do not know of anyone who regrets volunteer time given to these organizations.
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Obama is real trouble for gun owners he doesn't want to stop at assault weapons
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