Use of Dispersants for Gulf Oil Spill

[Harmsway]

Here is link to EPA's website on the subject of dispersants for mitigation of the Deepwater Horizon oil well debacle . . .

http://www.epa.gov/bpspill/dispersants.html#ncp

[Sir reel]

Does it bother anybody else besides me that when ever you get to most of the answers... it generally concludes with something like.... "WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE THE EFFECTS HAVEN'T BEEN EVALUATED YET" ??? Well...folks, we are sure nuff smack in the middle of evaluate'n the heck out of it NOW!!

[RHTFISH]

Does it bother anybody else besides me that when ever you get to most of the answers... it generally concludes with something like.... "WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE THE EFFECTS HAVEN'T BEEN EVALUATED YET" ??? Well...folks, we are sure nuff smack in the middle of evaluate'n the heck out of it NOW!!

Sounds like you might be forming an opinion Mr. Bud!
Please don't temper expressing yourself on my behalf!

[Sir reel]

Sorry RHT... I'll try to gather up my emotions and do good'r from here on out. Thanks for be'n my voice of reason

[Scoop Sea]

The use of dispersants is a hard call. As outlined in the link that Harmsway identified, the dispersant must be on the NCP's product schedule before it can be used. This means that the EPA and others have researched the dispersant in the past and are familiar with its characteristics, etc. Dispersant use is not uncommon, however, the volume being used currently, as well as the use of dispersants below surface are new territories for all of us. It's definitely a trade off, let the oil stay on top and come to shore and possibly wipe out the wetlands/estuaries that at one time or another house a large portion of our gulf resources or hit the oil with dispersants, put the oil in the water column, and hope the oil is dispersed enough that it doesn't do too much harm to the marine environment. I can attest that the Federal On-Scene Coordinators (Both Coast Guard and EPA) take the use of dispersants seriously and unlike other countries do not generally make them the first choice. If the seas were calm and the wind wasn't blowing most the time, the best alternatives would be to either boom the oil offshore and then skim the oil off or boom the oil offshore and burn it out in the gulf. Unfortunately, we do not get very many days in which these options will work. Couple that with the fact that any oil on top has travelled nearly a mile through the water and at that point has picked up sediments and had the opportunity to emulsify and you can see the challenges associated with booming/skimming and booming/burning. It's a mess for sure, but folks are working hard to try and do their best to resolve the problem at hand. Let's hope the development of the relief wells aren't postponed due to bad weather or other limiting factors. They are basically the only thing for sure that has historically stopped such leaks (although BP and the feds are open to trying other things as well). Until it has been stopped, we can expect tar balls and tar mats at a minimum.

[MudDucker]

The disbersants were used to save the beaches. That is a hard call as to what will do the most damage. The more that comes out, the more it seems this was a total cluster both by the company and by the regulators.

[Dubble Trubble]

I will say it again. How many of you on here ride a Donkey? If you use a truck, car, or motorized boat, YOU are part of the problem (I am also).

This was an industrial accident, nothing more, nothing less. The ramifications of it are going to be widespread, but until we quit using oil (I do not see that happening), we are going to have these things happen.

It is no different than if you were in an auto accident, except a lot more lawyers are going to get rich off of this one.

Lets just hope the guys working on this can come up with solutions that work. Armchair quarterbacking and the blame game is getting us nowhere.

I don't like the spill one bit, but I still buy BP gasoline, and will continue to do so. They are going to be hit hard by this, yet they are providing us with gas for our little fishing trips.

When you tell me you have given up buying gasoline or Diesel, then I will listen to the whining.

Sorry, just the way I see it.

Dubble

[CrispyFishin]

I will say it again. How many of you on here ride a Donkey? If you use a truck, car, or motorized boat, YOU are part of the problem (I am also).

This was an industrial accident, nothing more, nothing less. The ramifications of it are going to be widespread, but until we quit using oil (I do not see that happening), we are going to have these things happen.

It is no different than if you were in an auto accident, except a lot more lawyers are going to get rich off of this one.

Lets just hope the guys working on this can come up with solutions that work. Armchair quarterbacking and the blame game is getting us nowhere.

I don't like the spill one bit, but I still buy BP gasoline, and will continue to do so. They are going to be hit hard by this, yet they are providing us with gas for our little fishing trips.

When you tell me you have given up buying gasoline or Diesel, then I will listen to the whining.

Sorry, just the way I see it.

Dubble

...This is the typical conservative mindset, "this is the way the world is, and there is nothing that any of you can do to change it, so shut up about it." Throughout our nation's history we have had some folks with a little more imagination, and I hope that there are still some of those folks left.

[Sir reel]

[Dubble Trubble]

Well, if we see a guy on a donkey, we know it is Crispyfishin. Glad to see you are using NO oil products, therefore you are not a part of the problem.


Let me add you totally missed my point, which is we all use oil, and share the blame.

Dubble

[Flint River Pirate]

Ha! Get him Dub.

[boggob]

I know it ain't FoxNews but I would recommend everyone watch the 60 minutes story that aired last Sunday. They interviewed a survivor that was rescued by a fishing boat.

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/60minut ... 3415.shtml

Sure we are all to blame for driving cars but the fact remains that this is more than just an accident as it could have been prevented. It was willful negligence at all levels in order to save or make a buck.

[RHTFISH]

...This is the typical conservative mindset, "this is the way the world is, and there is nothing that any of you can do to change it, so shut up about it." Throughout our nation's history we have had some folks with a little more imagination, and I hope that there are still some of those folks left.[/quote]

Oh please.....

Sorry, but I'm a conservative and don't flatter yourself by even beginning to think you can read my mind!

[big bend gyrene]

It was willful negligence at all levels in order to save or make a buck.

As an independent tired of lies spewed from pretty much all politicians, I just want to know how many of the libs on the board believe that the liberal leaders aren't guilty of the same sin?

Pelosi jetting her family around willy nilly on military planes while criticizing businessmen for doing legitimate business on jets (I worked at GD in Tallahassee and it was the only way for our leadership to meet for BUSINESS in one day, and as I sat in the meetings I know it was indeed for business), Geithner cheating on his own taxes, Daschle failed to pay more than $140,000 in taxes and interest on a car and driver provided by a wealthy Democratic fundraiser, Obama's playing more golf on the job in two years than Bush did in eight and likes his eating his caviar dinners quite a bit while the nation at large is suffering, Gore's made millions and is aiming for billions off his warming falsifications, and put 'em all together and they're spending almost every cent of the nations GDP.

I'll trust the businessman in a FREE market system everytime over the politician. The businessman at least faces the threat of other's stealing his business if his reputation becomes too damaged. Take it from someone who has worked with private industry and the government, the private businessman is much more apt to wisely spend his AND other's money than the gooberment.

Anyone wants to argue that the politicians aren't chasing power to pocket big bucks too, I'm all ears...

[big bend gyrene]

Summarized, I buy something from a company I actually GET a product in return... seems all the government does for me is take, take, take...