Not a happy camper

All things having to do with boats, trailers, engines, electronics and accessories.
Image

Moderators: bman, Chalk, Tom Keels

mbweimar
Posts: 225
Joined: April 8th, 2012, 7:40 pm
Location: Hobe Sound, Fl

Not a happy camper

Post by mbweimar »

I discovered this while wiring the nav lights on my new Weldbilt. These cracks are on the two front corners of the console where it's mounted to the floor. I'm taking the boat in next week to have some fab work done so we'll see what they can do. I doubt it's fixable so I may have them make me a stronger console...ok rant over. Hope everyone enjoyed the semi-decent weather today!

Image

Image
reelbad
Posts: 953
Joined: July 10th, 2008, 7:37 pm

Re: Not a happy camper

Post by reelbad »

mbweimar wrote:I discovered this while wiring the nav lights on my new Weldbilt. These cracks are on the two front corners of the console where it's mounted to the floor. I'm taking the boat in next week to have some fab work done so we'll see what they can do. I doubt it's fixable so I may have them make me a stronger console...ok rant over. Hope everyone enjoyed the semi-decent weather today!

Image

Image
They look like they can be ground down and welded to me.
User avatar
Dubble Trubble
Site Sponsor
Posts: 2348
Joined: October 30th, 2005, 8:46 pm
Location: Thomasville

Re: Not a happy camper

Post by Dubble Trubble »

What is interesting is there looks like there are holes on each side the crack runs through. Why are the holes there in the first place?

Dubble :thumbup:
The more I know about something, the more I know that I did not know as much as I thought I knew that I knew.
mbweimar
Posts: 225
Joined: April 8th, 2012, 7:40 pm
Location: Hobe Sound, Fl

Re: Not a happy camper

Post by mbweimar »

Do you think welding would prevent this from happening again?
User avatar
Gulf Coast
Site Sponsor
Posts: 1914
Joined: February 9th, 2010, 3:25 pm
Location: WOODVILLE/MEDART

Re: Not a happy camper

Post by Gulf Coast »

I wouldn't sweat that :-D
User avatar
bman
Moderator
Posts: 4800
Joined: December 4th, 2005, 9:26 am
Location: Tallahassee
Contact:

Re: Not a happy camper

Post by bman »

Some folks drill holes to stop cracks... And there is one on the unbroken sides.
I wonder if it was a preventative thing?
Barry Bevis, Realtor and Owner of BigBendFishing.net
I liked it so much, I bought the company ;-)

http://www.bevisrealty.com
Image
TEAM "Duck Season!"
User avatar
Flint River Pirate
Site Sponsor
Posts: 3639
Joined: August 23rd, 2007, 12:35 pm
Location: Lynn Haven, FL

Re: Not a happy camper

Post by Flint River Pirate »

I'm with Bman, I wonder if that happened during installation and the holes were drilled to try and stop the crack. Did you out the console in? I bet JB Weld would fix it! :-)
Image
Team Jolly Mon
mbweimar
Posts: 225
Joined: April 8th, 2012, 7:40 pm
Location: Hobe Sound, Fl

Re: Not a happy camper

Post by mbweimar »

You know what...I never noticed that. Shields put the console I'm for me, but it doesn't look like the holes were drilled after it was painted. I'll take a closer look tomorrow. I just took all the screws out and put silicone down in the holes to keep them from backing out. I feel like I would have seen the cracks then. But maybe not.
reelbad
Posts: 953
Joined: July 10th, 2008, 7:37 pm

Re: Not a happy camper

Post by reelbad »

mbweimar wrote:You know what...I never noticed that. Shields put the console I'm for me, but it doesn't look like the holes were drilled after it was painted. I'll take a closer look tomorrow. I just took all the screws out and put silicone down in the holes to keep them from backing out. I feel like I would have seen the cracks then. But maybe not.
Silicone won't stop the screws from backing out. You can use loc tight or perma weld, but get the removable kind, I think you want the red thread locker, but just read the package to be sure.
TallyFish
Posts: 250
Joined: February 1st, 2007, 1:33 pm

Re: Not a happy camper

Post by TallyFish »

Bman is in theory correct in that a hole drilled in a crack will stop the crack from getting longer however, notice that the crack extends on both sides of the hole. To be effective the hole should have been drilled at the very end of the crack & into new un-cracked metal to prevent it from "running" any further. In some of the cracks this means the hole would have been in the horizontal portion of bend flap indicating to me that the cracks occurred during installation. With as many hold down screws as appear to have been used I would not be concerned about it coming loose......IF it is fastened on four sides! If is it only fastened on three sides then a force applied high on the console may cause it to flex and "tear" the corners loose.

If I had done the work myself I would live with it till it broke however, if I paid to have it done.......!
User avatar
Rhettley
Site Sponsor
Posts: 896
Joined: October 15th, 2007, 9:07 pm
Location: Pelham, GA

Re: Not a happy camper

Post by Rhettley »

It is cracked on both corners in basically the same place. Looks to me like when the corner screws were tightened down during installation the torque cracked it and the holes were drilled in an effort to stop the cracks from spreading. The one in the middle of the crack was drilled in the wrong spot even as like has been stated, it should have been at the end of the crack. That should have been pointed out to you after the install as it's a problem.
In my opinion it needs to be welded and if that doesn't work, the console needs to be replaced by the manufacturer or installer. I'm thinking it's a weak point in the manufacture process as it cracked in the same place on both sides. If it hadn't cracked when screwed down it would have cracked after the stress of a few bumps on waves or while trailering.
MarkM
Posts: 383
Joined: January 3rd, 2008, 10:01 pm

Re: Not a happy camper

Post by MarkM »

I'm with Rhett that the cracks, look like to me are due to overtightening.
mbweimar
Posts: 225
Joined: April 8th, 2012, 7:40 pm
Location: Hobe Sound, Fl

Re: Not a happy camper

Post by mbweimar »

Upon further inspection, I found ALL four corners of the console to be cracked. All four corners have holes which were made in the manufacturing process somehow. The holes do not appear to be drilled, they aren't perfectly round. Regardless, this console will be thrown away and I'll have a stronger one built to my liking. Here's a closer look.

Image

Image

Image

Pretty decent shots for a cell phone !
TallyFish
Posts: 250
Joined: February 1st, 2007, 1:33 pm

Re: Not a happy camper

Post by TallyFish »

In the last close up photo the hole appears to have been made with an awl or punch.
User avatar
Rhettley
Site Sponsor
Posts: 896
Joined: October 15th, 2007, 9:07 pm
Location: Pelham, GA

Re: Not a happy camper

Post by Rhettley »

They need to round off those right angle corners on the bottom too. That looks like a prime place to take a chunk of skin off a toe or foot on. I'm guessing there is a problem in the bending process to make the flanges that attaches to the floor. It seems to really weaken the metal.
Post Reply