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THOMAS CITY CURVE wrote: Years ago, they did a survival rate of released fish and unless you wet your hands before handling and handle them very gently, that rate wasn't great. Even with this, at least the survivors add back to the stock.
Not sure how much I believe about the handling of the fish will lessen their survival rate greatly. If so, there would be dead trout every where with the amount of fish we catch! :smt005 :smt005
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I didn't say that.
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Gulf Coast, If you will look back at my post that I guess your referring to, I stated I felt a number of things contributed to the trout decline. My net information came from people that know. LOCALS who know what's happening. If you take offense to that for whatever reason that's your problem. When I started that post I was trying to compare notes with other folks to see if a lot of fishermen were experiencing the same things we were. Most were and most were very helpful. You came out with some off the wall, smart a-- comment for no reason. While I'm at it I will inform you that I pay homeowner taxes in Florida just like you do. I can assure you that you hurt the trout population a whole lot more than this Georgia boy ever has. I'm not sure what your problem is with me since you don't know me. I will say my impression of you has kept me from shopping over your way.
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By the way GC, I've never been to Econfina or fished on the coast in the winter, so I guess your not referring to me. If fishermen from anywhere are double dipping, and you know it, have the balls to turn them in instead of whining about it on a forum. You seem to have a prejudged opinion of folks. Again that's your problem.
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Gulf Coast wrote:This thread is derailed, lol....MD dirty ol money does spend good, just not enough of it in bait and tackle, buy a lot and build a house !!! :D I just don't buy a rouge netter taking more than what come out of that camp ground down there. Either way like SK said its a lot of things, we need to close trout in Feb. at least that would protect the fish in the river for awhile.
I spend my dirty ole money in bait and tackle shops, grocery stores, restaurants, gas stations, boat ramps, etc and actually did just buy a house and 2 lots on the coast using the services of our site owner. Before that, I owned a condo at the Cape. My sisters and I have a condo at Daytona. My great uncle owned a full city block of downtown Jacksonville. My family and I have owned property in Florida for close to a 100 years.

The derail was your attacking us poor Georgia folks. I'm not like Trump, I don't run from a debate. :smt005

I have personally seen rouge Florida netters whipe out entire schools of fish in one night that had been supplying hook and line fishermen for weeks at Keaton Beach. I have had Florida people invite me fishing that owned homes and they laughed about limits because they could catch one, run home, empty cooler and repeat. :o

I am not against regulations which are scientifically proven to increase fish stocks. I don't want the "climate" science though!
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OK you guys win, LOL just don't believe everything y'all hear on the peanut telegraph LMAO...Netters are famliy and friends who I do business year round !! Besides they tell me where the fish are at. :-D No hard feeling Crackers :smt004
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BTW y'all seem to witness a whole lot more illegal activity than I do :o ... Wonder why that is ?
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THOMAS CITY CURVE wrote:I didn't say that.
My bad Thomas City, I tried to delete some of the words that someone else quoted so it wouldn't take up the whole page and left the wrong stuff.
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If you see someone netting trout, then report them. I know they are trying to make a living, but if they do it illegally they should suffer the consequences. If a rogue netter takes out 500 fish in a night, that is 50 limits of fish that could be caught by recreational guys. Assuming 2 guys per boat, that is 25 boat launch fees, piles of shrimp and gulps, restaurant dinners, gas fill ups and so forth. I just feel that the economic impact on the area from the rec guys is much greater for that 500 fish than it is if the commercial guys sell it.

I see the conservation of the fishing water in Florida alot like I see the deer woods in Georgia. If I see anyone hunting illegally, I report them so that there is game for the next season.

I remember a few years ago watching a giant school of sheepshead in the surf everyday around the end of cape san blas when I was down there for a week. Toward the end of the week, an old mullet boat stuck them and caught the entire school over the course of about 4 hours. While it was legal for them to catch them, it just seemed like a huge waste.
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Maybe it because we don't turn our heads to customers and friends.
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Being fair, I, for one, have absolutely nothing against legal netting. If its legal then have at it. It's anything illegal that needs to be stopped. If it is rec. fishermen taking double limits then nail um no matter where they live. Same with illegal netters, drug dealers or thiefs. Nobody like a lazy SOB.
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milto wrote:
THOMAS CITY CURVE wrote: Years ago, they did a survival rate of released fish and unless you wet your hands before handling and handle them very gently, that rate wasn't great. Even with this, at least the survivors add back to the stock.
Not sure how much I believe about the handling of the fish will lessen their survival rate greatly. If so, there would be dead trout every where with the amount of fish we catch! :smt005 :smt005
I posted that. That was what a FWC biologist told me. He also said that we don't see a lot of the fish that die from mishandling. What he said was basically if the fish's slim coating was broken by rough net or hands, the fish, already stressed from being caught, was very susceptible to infection. He wanted to require everyone use a soft rubber net. I have heard and read the same thing from other sources. So, don't shoot the messenger. :smt009
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Pirate wrote:Being fair, I, for one, have absolutely nothing against legal netting. If its legal then have at it. It's anything illegal that needs to be stopped. If it is rec. fishermen taking double limits then nail um no matter where they live. Same with illegal netters, drug dealers or thiefs. Nobody like a lazy SOB.
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MudDucker wrote:
milto wrote:
THOMAS CITY CURVE wrote: Years ago, they did a survival rate of released fish and unless you wet your hands before handling and handle them very gently, that rate wasn't great. Even with this, at least the survivors add back to the stock.
Not sure how much I believe about the handling of the fish will lessen their survival rate greatly. If so, there would be dead trout every where with the amount of fish we catch! :smt005 :smt005
I posted that. That was what a FWC biologist told me. He also said that we don't see a lot of the fish that die from mishandling. What he said was basically if the fish's slim coating was broken by rough net or hands, the fish, already stressed from being caught, was very susceptible to infection. He wanted to require everyone use a soft rubber net. I have heard and read the same thing from other sources. So, don't shoot the messenger. :smt009
Hey MD, I was just being funny. I don't doubt that mishandling fish in any manner, whether holding them upright or with dry hands, reduces their chances of survival.
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Peace Brother!
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