Redfish.

Post by **Cranfield** » October 25th, 2004, 2:08 pm

Large redfish are frequently referred to as, "bull" redfish.
Does this suggest that they are males ?
If so, how do we know ?
Are the females significantly smaller ?

Post by **Atticus** » October 25th, 2004, 2:17 pm

I THINK- the big 'bulls' are actually females. I THINK- the 'bull' nickname has to do with their size and general mean spirit with a hook in their mouths and not their sex.

Post by **wevans** » October 25th, 2004, 2:25 pm

Just imagine trying ta hold back a woman with a new credit card at the door of the mall

That's the real Bull

Joeseminole18 · Post by **Joeseminole18** » October 25th, 2004, 8:52 pm

I dont think it's gender specific. Obviously with most fish females tend to be bigger, but I doubt that male redfish stop growing at 25 inches.

I know that big striped bass are called "cows", and that's not gender specific. Yes the bigger ones are females but there's no way anyone can convince me that there are no 50lb male striped bass....same goes for reds.

Post by **Aucilla** » October 25th, 2004, 9:19 pm

I have used the term on here, having fun once when one got away by headiing the report "No Bull." But I just mean big and brawny, and some of them if not most are female in the redfish department. But our buddy Littoral may actually KNOW because I think he is a biology person. Hey Litt? Can you chime in on this? In the meantime, I can't wait to catch one again. It has been way to long, but thanks for the chance to dream about it some cran!

Littoral · Post by **Littoral** » October 26th, 2004, 12:27 pm

As a rule females are bigger in nature. I gave a quick look in my library for a definitive answer & couldn't find any specifics on redfish. For what it's worth a quick internet search agreed but they didn't cite any references. Here's that link.
http://www.fishingworld.com/News/Read.p ... =000013118
I'm not one to believe something just because somebody who claims to be an "authority" said so.
That borders on a political comment that I can't allow to poison the part of my brain dedicated to fishing (most if it).

Post by **Aucilla** » October 26th, 2004, 12:28 pm

That's a great new sig, litt!

Littoral · Post by **Littoral** » October 26th, 2004, 1:07 pm

Thanks Aucilla. I admit it's straight up adolescent bragging - all trout -4 19's and a 24".

sea-grits · Post by **sea-grits** » October 27th, 2004, 12:19 pm

Post by **mjsigns** » October 27th, 2004, 1:30 pm

Welcome Aboard Sea-grits !

My understanding is that the "bull" referrs to their size, and the fight they give you when hooked, and not their sexuality.

MJ

sea-grits · Post by **sea-grits** » October 27th, 2004, 1:54 pm

Post by **dbplug** » October 27th, 2004, 2:37 pm

While you folks are awaiting the lunar eclipse tonite - here are my favorite redfish links. The best info will always be here on BBF.net.

Bull Red â€“ only in Nawlins:
http://www.amberle.com/FestivalOfFins/p ... 09-15a.htm

A bull from LA
http://www.ratemyfish.com/?action=ssp&pid=2065

LA bull red report from the newspaper:
http://www.nola.com/sports/t-p/marshall ... 127240.xml

Good info from TX:
http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/fish/specin ... eddrum.htm

Another very good article:
http://www.usangler.com/newsletter/sept ... ter-sept04

check out the video link on this page:
http://www.charterfish.net/report.html

welcome aboard sea-grits. You sound kinda like someone from a year ago.

Post by **mjsigns** » October 27th, 2004, 5:40 pm

Sea Grit-
I'm not a good source for "redfish" info, but there are many others here that can give you some excellent clues.

We all know a little, but only a slim few know alot about these fishes. You can look around in some of the "in shore fishing reports" area and get some information.

As far as the fight, I have hooked one and almost lost my rod before the line snapped.

I prefer using live baits like pinfish, mud minnows small crabs even fiddler crabs. I don't have much luck with arificials with these reds.

What is your location? Are you from around here?

sea-grits · Post by **sea-grits** » October 27th, 2004, 8:18 pm

Post by **tin can** » October 27th, 2004, 9:08 pm

Welcome Sea-Grits.

Reds are indeed fished for in the shallows, around oyster bars and in and around the creeks. They are caught on live, cutbait, and artificials. I very seldom fish live or cut bait. What reds I catch are on artificials. 25" to 28" reds are not uncommpm in the shallows. But the really big ones are caught in deeper water, Certain times of the year you will get into the reds while bottom fishing for grouper. They can be caught on jigs and spoons, as well as live or cut bait. I don't know of anyone who targets the reds in deeper water. They're usually stumbled onto, and a a bonus when you find them.

As for the shallow water, if they're feeding, you can catch them on most any artificial. I prefer to catch them on a topwater, such as a chug bug. But they can be caught on sinking hard baits, or jigs and grubs. A gold spoon also works well. I usually throw a regular trout jig and grub if they won't take topwater.