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Wakulla Waters Bacteria

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I have been thinking on this issue based on observations from this year compared to other years in the past.

#1, The springs at Spring Creek has not had the flow this year as in years past. The cold hole has not been bubbling up as it used to. I would guess its flow is only about 20% of normal. Also the cold hole has not been cold all year due to the lower flow rate.

#2, The old Shell Point basin at the marina has been dredged this year. This dredging could have disturb contaminates (Fuel, Sewage, Batteries, anything) that have been locked away on the basins floor.

I am not a Scientist or a Biologist just a fishermen making some observations.
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Good observations Ty. Food for thought. :thumbup:
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A couple of local articles....




Beach 'goo' finding disputed
Experts suspect sewage, not algae

By Bruce Ritchie
DEMOCRAT STAFF WRITER

Some water quality experts are disagreeing with state environmental officials' conclusions regarding a sticky substance in the shallow waters and along the shoreline at Wakulla Beach in Wakulla County.

A Florida Department of Environmental Protection inspector earlier this month determined that the material wasn't sewage. A DEP biologist examined samples and determined that it was a microscopic algae called diatoms, department spokeswoman Sally Cooey said.

Sean McGlynn, who was Leon County's lake testing contractor until earlier this year, said the material seems like sewage but he can't be sure without more testing.

He said the material contains few diatoms and is almost all organic matter and fiber. He also said there were high bacteria levels in the water consistent with sewage.

"I have never seen or smelled anything like that," McGlynn said. "It was absolutely awful."

"I would suspect something was dumped or spilled in that area," he said. "If it was a bloom, it should be more widespread coming from offshore. It also was odd for an algal bloom (to be) in just one little inlet."

A research scientist with the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission said she also concluded that there was not a diatom bloom in the samples she examined.

Jennifer Wolny, a research scientist with at the commission's Fish and Wildlife Research Institute in St. Petersburg, said Wednesday she didn't know the source of organic material.

"There were diatoms in the water but not at bloom concentrations," she said. She also said she did not see high concentrations of bacteria.

Cooey said a report from the DEP inspector has not been written. She said a local Health Department official also made the determination that it wasn't sewage.

"We were not the only agency that made that evaluation," she said.

A Wakulla County Health Department employee determined on Sept. 15 that there was no signs of dumping or sewage, said Padraic Juarez, the department's environmental health director.

The department last week issued an advisory against swimming as a precaution. Juarez said samples were collected Wednesday to determine whether the area was safe for swimming.

McGlynn said he didn't know how so much of the material could have been dumped at Wakulla Beach, which is at the end of a dirt road in the St. Marks National Wildlife Refuge.

Jack Rudloe, vice president of the Gulf Specimen Marine Lab in Panacea, said the state should launch a criminal investigation to determine the source of the material.

"I am outraged DEP is calling this a diatom bloom," Rudloe said. "There is serious negligence going on here. I don't know why it's being covered up. I don't know why it's being ignored."

Cooey responded that DEP will return to the area to look for a potential source of the material. She also said department officials will contact Rudloe and McGlynn to learn about their analyses.

Go to Tallahassee.com to watch a video report on Wakulla Beach.







Many theories to Wakulla Beach goo mystery

By Bruce Ritchie
DEMOCRAT STAFF WRITER

Democrat readers are offering various theories on what's causing the sticky, foul-smelling substance along the shoreline and in the shallow waters of Wakulla Beach.

The Florida Department of Environmental Protection says the goo that was first reported Sept. 15 is a die-off of microscopic algae called diatoms. DEP and local health officials say they ruled out the possibility of it being sewage.


But water quality specialist Sean McGlynn said the samples he examined contained few diatoms. He said the material contains fibers and is more consistent with sewage, though he doesn't know how it could have gotten to tiny Wakulla Beach.

Some readers suggest that a septic tank pump-out service may have dumped its tanker truck at the end of the road in the St. Marks National Wildlife Refuge.

But McGlynn said it would have taken many trucks to dump that much material, and he said there was no signs of heavy trucks being on the dirt road. He said it could have been dumped from a boat or a barge.

One theory offered by Jennifer Wolny, a research scientist with the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission, is that the organic material from the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico was stirred up and washed ashore during a storm.

McGlynn said there haven't been any recent hurricanes and tropical storms in the area.

Another theory offered by readers is that the material may have floated across the Gulf of Mexico from the Buckeye Florida cellulose mill in Perry.

McGlynn said the material could be pulp mill fibers, dead seaweed or sewage and it would be difficult to tell the difference. He said that's why it should be investigated as soon as possible to learn what the material is.

"The longer we wait, the more rotten that is getting and the more unrecognizable it will be," McGlynn said.

A DEP spokeswoman said Wednesday that the department is going back to Wakulla Beach to look for a source of the material. The Wakulla County Health Department also collected water samples to determine if there is bacteria in the water.





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Perhaps Littoral will chime in.



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I stopped by there today and I can confirm it stunk like poodunk. There were 8 DEP/USFWS and other agency folks. They were mapping the "material" and taking muck and water samples. I chose not to wade.

BD-remember the odor int he muck at keaton in March - this was 10-times worse.
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:o I remember. Pretty stinky.
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Just saw a report on Ch. 6 about the sludge at Wakulla Beach. That is some nasty looking stuff. :o
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Saw it about a week ago. I could describe it; but, someone may be eating. :lick:
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I fished that area one afternoon last week.. Stuff was everywhere although couldn't smell it that much..Course wind was blowing out of southwest pretty hard...Didn't seem to affect the fish that much. We caught several nice trout..and dang sure didn't affect the sailcats ~!
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DEP back at Wakulla Beach
More samples are taken of mystery muck

By Bruce Ritchie
DEMOCRAT STAFF WRITER



WAKULLA BEACH - The Florida Department of Environmental Protection collected new samples Thursday of a sticky muck that has plagued the shoreline of Wakulla Beach for two weeks.

Tallahassee Democrat readers, meanwhile, are offering various theories on what's causing the foul-smelling substance along the shore in the St. Marks National Wildlife Refuge.


DEP has said the material was a die-off of microscopic algae called diatoms. But other scientists have disagreed, and one said the muck is more consistent with sewage.

Russel Frydenborg, a DEP environmental administrator, said after collecting new samples Thursday that it's premature to say someone dumped something there.

"I don't see how that could happen," he said. "It just doesn't make sense to me it was a human source."

He said the material, which had some dead sea grasses in it, was found up to 32 feet from the shore and extended about 1,000 feet to the east and less than a half-mile to the west.

Water-quality expert Sean McGlynn of Tallahassee has said the material is more consistent with sewage because it contained high bacteria levels. But he also said he doesn't know how the sludge-like material could have gotten there.

Some readers suggested that a septic tank pump-out service may have dumped its tanker truck along the shore. McGlynn said it would have taken many trucks to dump that much material, and he said there were no signs of heavy trucks. He said it could have been dumped from a boat or a barge.

One theory offered by Jennifer Wolny, a research scientist with the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission, is that organic material from the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico was stirred up and washed ashore during a storm. However, McGlynn said there haven't been any recent storms to stir up the bottom.

Another theory offered by readers is that the material may have floated across the Gulf of Mexico from the Buckeye Florida cellulose mill in Perry. Frydenborg said it's unlikely the material would travel more than 35 miles from the Fenholloway River and arrive at a single spot.

"We need to gather the facts before we make a conclusion," he said.

McGlynn said the material could be pulp-mill fibers, dead seaweed or sewage, and it is difficult to tell the difference without further investigation. Frydenborg said test results for bacteria should be available in a couple of days. He said a nutrient analysis of the material will take about a week.



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Guessing Lit is a little too close to the situation to comment?

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Beach advisories reissued in Wakulla, Franklin

By Bruce Ritchie
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Advisories against swimming have been reissued for Shell Point and Mashes Sands in Wakulla County.

The advisories have been in place since early August because of high bacteria levels.

The Wakulla County Health Department also has issued an advisory against swimming at Wakulla Beach as a precaution because of a black muck along the shore. The Florida Department of Environmental Protection is analyzing samples of the material.

In Franklin County, an advisory has been reissued for Carrabelle Beach. Alligator Point and St. George Island beaches remain clear.

In Taylor County, advisories remain against swimming at Keaton Beach, Cedar Beach and Hagens Cove.

For more information, go on the Web to doh.state.fl.us and choose "beach water quality" from the pull-down menu.


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Just a WAG,but something tells me Wevans knows what's going on. :o
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Probably. With him only leavin' the house under the cover of darkness and all. :wink:


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It's just a RUMOR :roll: but it do seem coincidental that this occurs around the same time as the work going on at Shell Point :smt004 :beer:
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