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SHOWBOAT wrote:

Afterburner wrote:If you go with a 90.... make certain it's fuel injected, not carb'd.

Please explain your thought process here. Thanks

That don't make sense. The 90hp Yamaha 2 stroke is one of the best motors ever made and it has carbs. I have never heard of anybody having trouble with one.

No problem, Showboat: I've had dealings through the years with Pete Magnuson (Pete's Outboard's Service), now Sunshine Boats & Motors (he bought the place). I was shopping for a 40 HP two years ago, and he said, "Get fuel injection." Fuel injected starts much easier than carbuerated, and there is significantly less chance of fuel problems in the long run with injectors vs. carb. It is possible for the injectors to have a problem, but if you run an additive in the fuel, and use a good 10 micron fuel filter, you should be fine. I know for a fact that Pete has gone to tons of Yamaha classes up at their regional headquarters in South Georgia, and I think technically he's always seemed on the ball.

Big fan of Pete myself. He's taken care of me over the past number of years.

Natureboy.... I can tell you that two years ago, I had my neighbor across the canal buy a brand new 90 HP Mercury Saltwater Series Outboard. It has a really good reputation. There were several times that he wondered if he was going to get out on the water because he flooded it trying to start it cold. It is carb'd, but admittedly, a Merc, not a Yamaha, but I had a Yamaha mechanic in Tallahassee telling me to get fuel injection.

Thanks Afterburner. Rationale makes sense. Not sure I agree with it as I personally have had of more negative experiences with FI than carbs, but it makes sense. I'd rather take my chances on flooding and trying again in 15 minutes than loosing pressure and being SOL. Again, my limited personal experience with FI has not been positive though.

Let's face it... most people don't run their boat every week. I think fuel injectors hold up better to sitting around unused than does a carb.

Afterburner wrote:Let's face it... most people don't run their boat every week. I think fuel injectors hold up better to sitting around unused than does a carb.

I don't know man. There are alot of 1960's and 1970's motors still turning strong and they are all carbs. On a car I would agree with you but not an outboard. I have a 2001 2 stroke 115 that I don't use much anymore but tha boy always fires up. Fuel injection has it's fair share of trouble and is much more complicated to repair a problem. Carbs have been around for a long time. You can disagree all you want but I base my statement on the opinions of folks that use outboards to make their living. Like I said on a car it would make a difference but an outboard is not built like a car motor where little use is a problem. On a carb motor all you have to do is drain the carbs when you are storing it for a long period of time. That is what I do What about it Mr. Earl Futch what do you think?

I bought a 1991 25 HP Johnson.... carb'd. When you say drain the carbs, oil was mixed with the fuel, so after each use I ran it on the hose, got the RPM to a fairly good clip, disconnected the fuel line, and ran all the gas out of it. I don't know for certain that drained the carbs completely.... eventually the carb had to be rebuilt. When Johnson and Evinrude first came out with there auto oil mixing, with the separate oil tank, an oil/fuel mix was run through the carb. That definitely gummed up the carbs, because you could not run the fuel out of the engine. The Japs came up with the oil injection directly into the cylinder, which is the way to go. I was basing my opinion on what an experienced outboard mechanic told me. We both have valid points. I am through discussing it.

I had a 60-horse Johnson, carbed. Flawless performance.

Now on an Envirude E-tec 115. No problems.

I'm not hard on equipment, though.

The quality of motors nowadays is pretty good, regardless of the brand.

If you take care of your stuff, and give it a glance every now and then, you'll do pretty good, no matter what you run.

I HAVE A 1985 YEAR MODEL 85 H.P. EVINRUDE ON MY FISHIN BOAT,MUST HAVE ABOUT 3,500-4,000 HOURS ON IT, ONLY THING I HAVE EVER HAD TO FIX WAS A SKEG I KNOCKED OFF THIS PAST YEAR. CHANGED SPARK PLUGS ABOUT 5 YRS. AGO AND SHE STILL RUNS GREAT. THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS THAT I DO THAT MIGHT HELP TO KEEP MY ENGINES WITHOUT HAVING TO BE REPAIRED. NUMBER ONE IS I ALWAYS BACK THE BOAT DOWN INTO FRESH WATER AND RUN THE ENGINE AFTER RUNNIN IN SALTWATER,KEEP THE EXTERIOR WAXED, CHANGE FOOT OIL ABOUT EVERY-OTHER YEAR, CHECK FOOT OIL AFTER EVERY 5-6TH USE, NEVER RUN ENGINE WOT, 2/3 THROTTLE GIVES ME ABOUT 40 MPH ON MY STARCRAFT AND THAT IS FAST ENOUGH TO BE RUNNIN ON WATER UNLESS YA HAVE AN EMERGENCY. I TRY TO USE MY ENGINE AT LEAST EVERY-OTHER WEEK, IF NOT , RUN IT ON THE HOSE. ALWAYS USE FRESH GAS AND OIL. DOING THE THINGS I HAVE LISTED MUST BE PARTLY RIGHT SINCE I HAVE BEEN RUNNING THIS 85 EVINRUDE FOR OVER 24 YEARS AND HAVE NOT HAD ANYTHING WEAR OUT OR BRAKE.
PA THE OLD MAN OF THE SEA

HEY NATURE BOY, ON THE OLDER ENGINES WE ALWAYS RAN THE GAS OUT OF THE CARB. BUT REMEMBER IF YOU CAN, BACK THEN WE MIXED 8 OZ. OF OIL PER GALLON OF GAS, NOW ON CARB. ENGINES WE MIX 16 OZ. OF OIL TO 6 GAL. OF GAS. I ALSO RUN A COUPLE SQUIRTS OF CHEM TOOL THROUGH MY CARBS A COUPLE OF TIMES A YEAR, THIS WILL CLEAN ANY GUM THAT MIGHT BE PRESENT IN THE CARB.
PA

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