Fenholloway

[GreenGator]

The Fenholloway river and North Florida have been the victim of pollution by the Buckeye paper mill since the 50's, and the fish are becoming Intersexed (having both sex organs). UF will be hosting a meeting soon that could give Buckeye state funding to further their pollution. Come out and help to get our fish back to the way nature intended and end this sh*t!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... Id=6082152

[activegator]

The intersex fish are only the beginning... there is a 10 mile dead zone in the Big Bends sea grass beds as well... these jackals must me stopped!!!!!!

The meeting at UF is on 8-21 "Purchasing & Disbursement Services Conference Room, Room 101, Elmore Hall, Radio Road, 11am-1pm"

IF YOU ARE ANYWHERE NEA UF, COME OVER AND HELP US PUT A STOP TO THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!

STATE FUNDED POLLUTION MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN!!!!!!

[MudDucker]

I am not for pollution nor for what Buckeye is doing to the Fenholloway...but where are these tree huggers with a single agenda coming from. Seems funny that both screen names are very similar....like it is just one person

[rocket]

I am not for pollution nor for what Buckeye is doing to the Fenholloway...but where are these tree huggers with a single agenda coming from. Seems funny that both screen names are very similar....like it is just one person

Good eye MD, looks like someone came here agenda oriented.
However it wouldn't hurt my feelings one bit if they were able to stop the devastating polution that Buckeye has caused the Fennholloway. How it has gone on so long is what I don't understand.
Of course if they were to shut Buckeye down, lots of folks would be out of employment, and the thriving metropolis of Perry is not exactly oozing with extra jobs.
Which is worse...devastating the environment or folks not being able to feed their families? Talk about a double edged sword

[SHOWBOAT]

but where are these tree huggers with a single agenda coming from.

Gainesville...

Seriously though, I'm not that familiar with this issue , never fished in that area either . Any qualified, non-biased data or articles you can point me to (as opppossed to propoganda or name calling). As Rocket points out, there are usually several issues tied into one, and I would like to understand the consequences any action your group is suppporting.

[MudDucker]

but where are these tree huggers with a single agenda coming from.

Gainesville...

Seriously though, I'm not that familiar with this issue , never fished in that area either . Any qualified, non-biased data or articles you can point me to (as opppossed to propoganda or name calling). As Rocket points out, there are usually several issues tied into one, and I would like to understand the consequences any action your group is suppporting.

I would imagine you got them pegged!

I've fished the area for over 40 years. I've seen the river covered in acidic foam from that plant and seen days in the summer when the smell was so bad, you couldn't wait to break out into the gulf. I do not for the life of me understand why the EPA hasn't worn these folks out. I know the mill in Valdosta had to address these issues years ago, but Buckeye has spit in the eye of the regulators. One suggestion Buckeye floated was to allow them to run a pipe out into the gulf to dump their waste as a way to save the river

Not saying this isn't an issue to get behind, but I've never liked outsiders who do hit and run posting.

[Good Times]

It's no secret that the Fen is polluted. The issue needs to be addressed. Let's not be rabid environmentalists about it though. 10 mile dead zone? Wouldn't that cover Ecky and Ancky? Has anyone told Casey, BB, and BD that they are fishing in a dead zone?!

[birddog]

Seems like a dead zone sometimes.

Without a doubt there is pollution coming from Buckeye down the Fenholloway. How they have gotten away with it is a mystery. What kills me is Buckeye is able to pump pollution into a wetland and ultimately into the Gulf, but a landowner in FL that is trying to build a pond to provide habitat for ducks, wading birds, etc. is treated like a pariah.

[rocket]

Seems like a dead zone sometimes.

but a landowner in FL that is trying to build a pond to provide habitat for ducks, wading birds, etc. is treated like a pariah.

One of those "better to ask for forgiveness than permission" situations.

[birddog]

The forgiveness part can get very expensive.

[rocket]

I wouldn't anticipate getting caught, but I guess there's always a chance.

[beatswork]

I live one mile from the river. Some days, especially when the air is still and humid, my house stinks from the plant that is a mere six or seven miles away. I have no affiliation with Buckeye, just my .02 from a citizen of Perry based on information coming from our paper and what I hear around town. Buckeye has made strides to clean up what is going into the river. They have retooled their plant to be more environmentally friendly. Is there pollution going into the river? Yes, and maybe I am naive but I think they are working on it. I do not agree with their plan to run that pipe into the gulf. The river is able to filter at least some of the pollution before it hits the gulf.

One good thing that is going on is UF received a grant to research the possibility of converting their wastewater into ethanol. The university and the plant are working on the details as I write this. I feel that is another positive. The plant is a major employer for this area, contributes to the school district, and I feel has had a positive impact for this community.

[MudDucker]

It's no secret that the Fen is polluted. The issue needs to be addressed. Let's not be rabid environmentalists about it though. 10 mile dead zone? Wouldn't that cover Ecky and Ancky? Has anyone told Casey, BB, and BD that they are fishing in a dead zone?!

You got that right...last trip to Rock Island (well within this 10 mile zone) was pretty productive for fishing. Grass seemed fine too.

When are these folks going to learn that their exaggeration costs them credibility with the rest of us folks.

Wonder if they are doing their study from a leer jet

[rocket]

What would the fine/penalty/outcome be if one of us were to cause a devistation that resulted in a 10 mile deadzone. How do you get away with that for so long?

[What a mess]

I fish mostly out of spring warrior there is no doubt they are dumping some bad stuff and while have only fished there about seven years the grass has been in a bad transition in that area this winter was real bad. dead zone no. bad problem getting worse yes.