gps not showing installed waypoints correctly
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gps not showing installed waypoints correctly
With my new handy dandy Garmin 76 gps.....i would go to sites like keatonbeachmarina.com and get the GPS coordinates for things like the channel markers and birdracks and rock island and all the surrounding waypoints...I would enter them manually or use software such as easygps and then download them into my unit....problem is that they are never right!!!!! I actually would have to delete them and just create a waypoint when I was near someplace such as a channel marker.... :why: :why: :why: if I have a good eye, I can usually spot things such as the birdracks or the marker at the inlet of spring warrior....with all of the waypoints being off, i just figured it wat the format that I was using to install them
what "datum" format should I be using ?????? any ideas ??????
what "datum" format should I be using ?????? any ideas ??????
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Re: gps not showing installed waypoints correctly
How far off are they? Like nowhere close, or within a few hundred yards or what?
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Re: gps not showing installed waypoints correctly
It's Jumptrout and the Sapillo hex 

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Re: gps not showing installed waypoints correctly
That sounds like a great name for a rock band or a children's book...Barhopr wrote:It's Jumptrout and the Sapillo hex

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Re: gps not showing installed waypoints correctly
yeah...it could go either waycaseycook wrote:That sounds like a great name for a rock band or a children's book...Barhopr wrote:It's Jumptrout and the Sapillo hex
Not to derail: I would be sure the location format of the GPS is the same as the Numbers you have.
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Re: gps not showing installed waypoints correctly
Sounds like you may be using the wrong format.
There are two common ways to display.
One is degrees, minutes, seconds. The other is degrees, minutes.
And there is a BIG difference.
This is how degrees,minutes ,seconds will display:
(note: I use * for the degree sign)
83* 25' 10" (83 degrees, 25 minutes, 10 seconds)
This is how degrees,minutes will display:
83* 25.100' (83 degrees, 25.100 minutes)
These 2 coordinates are NOT the same. You must know which format you use, and not mix them. (Or you may hit something
)
Some GPS's will even use another decimal place, so be sure you have it set to the same format you are using to input the numbers.
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There are two common ways to display.
One is degrees, minutes, seconds. The other is degrees, minutes.
And there is a BIG difference.
This is how degrees,minutes ,seconds will display:
(note: I use * for the degree sign)
83* 25' 10" (83 degrees, 25 minutes, 10 seconds)
This is how degrees,minutes will display:
83* 25.100' (83 degrees, 25.100 minutes)
These 2 coordinates are NOT the same. You must know which format you use, and not mix them. (Or you may hit something

Some GPS's will even use another decimal place, so be sure you have it set to the same format you are using to input the numbers.
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Re: gps not showing installed waypoints correctly
Look to see what format you are using and then use this website to convert your numbers http://www.csgnetwork.com/gpscoordconv.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Another way is to change the format on your GPS to match the numbers you have. Input the numbers, then change back or leave at the format.
Another way is to change the format on your GPS to match the numbers you have. Input the numbers, then change back or leave at the format.
Re: gps not showing installed waypoints correctly
here is what my gps is setup for.....
Location Format
hddd mm.mmm
map datum
wgs 84
north reference
magnetic
magnetic veriation
004 W
but when I add any of the following, it's never right...usually 300 yards or so off.....
REEF NAME LORAN1 LORAN2 LAT LON DEPTH
KEATON BEACH 2948.99 08336.51
MARKER 1 - KEATON BEACH CHANNEL 2949.50 08335.60
ADAMS BEACH 2952.70 08340.20 3
SPRING WARRIOR CREEK 2954.70 08342.30 3
BIG GRASS ISLAND 2944.40 08334.40 3
ROCK ISLAND 2958.00 08350.00 4
TROUT 2949.60 08339.30 4
HAGAN'S COVE 2946.20 08335.40 3
BIRDRACK #3 14475.1 63249.9 2943.438 08334.373 5
BIRDRACK #1 14489.7 63283.4 2950.091 08338.642 4
BIRDRACK #2 14482.5 63271.5 2947.076 08337.129 5
Nine Mile Sandbar 2941.10 08334.60
DOG HEAD 14475.6 46049.2 2944.90 08337.30 5
N. STEINHATCHEE #1 BUOY 14472.4 45924.6 2939.51 08327.30
THE CRANE 2938.765 08352.889
FENHOLLOWAY RIVER 2958.59 08347.30
STEINHATCHEE REEF 14460.6 46011.6 2939.480 08337.490 20
STEINHATCHEE REEF 14460.0 46011.0 2940.018 08337.564 22
STEINHATCHEE REEF 14459.9 46011.2 2940.005 08337.602 22
STEINHATCHEE REEF 14460.2 46009.9 2940.017 08337.426 22
STEINHATCHEE REEF 14461.4 46011.1 2939.867 08337.646 20
BIG BEND REEF PROJECT 14469.3 46109.2 2945.74 08343.98 25
TAYLOR #1 BIG BEND REEFS 14471.5 46108.9 2945.890 08343.640 27
TAYLOR #2 BIG BEND REEFS 14473.7 46105.6 2945.660 08343.920 27
60 TONS SCRAP STEEL 14428.0 46132.2 2938.76 08354..44 45
BUCKEYE REEF 14430.3 46133.8 2939.003 08354.245 47
THE CRACK 14398.5 45915.2 2923.81 08342.72 50
SUPER LEDGE 14389.3 45929.4 2922.81 08345.67 48
Location Format
hddd mm.mmm
map datum
wgs 84
north reference
magnetic
magnetic veriation
004 W
but when I add any of the following, it's never right...usually 300 yards or so off.....
REEF NAME LORAN1 LORAN2 LAT LON DEPTH
KEATON BEACH 2948.99 08336.51
MARKER 1 - KEATON BEACH CHANNEL 2949.50 08335.60
ADAMS BEACH 2952.70 08340.20 3
SPRING WARRIOR CREEK 2954.70 08342.30 3
BIG GRASS ISLAND 2944.40 08334.40 3
ROCK ISLAND 2958.00 08350.00 4
TROUT 2949.60 08339.30 4
HAGAN'S COVE 2946.20 08335.40 3
BIRDRACK #3 14475.1 63249.9 2943.438 08334.373 5
BIRDRACK #1 14489.7 63283.4 2950.091 08338.642 4
BIRDRACK #2 14482.5 63271.5 2947.076 08337.129 5
Nine Mile Sandbar 2941.10 08334.60
DOG HEAD 14475.6 46049.2 2944.90 08337.30 5
N. STEINHATCHEE #1 BUOY 14472.4 45924.6 2939.51 08327.30
THE CRANE 2938.765 08352.889
FENHOLLOWAY RIVER 2958.59 08347.30
STEINHATCHEE REEF 14460.6 46011.6 2939.480 08337.490 20
STEINHATCHEE REEF 14460.0 46011.0 2940.018 08337.564 22
STEINHATCHEE REEF 14459.9 46011.2 2940.005 08337.602 22
STEINHATCHEE REEF 14460.2 46009.9 2940.017 08337.426 22
STEINHATCHEE REEF 14461.4 46011.1 2939.867 08337.646 20
BIG BEND REEF PROJECT 14469.3 46109.2 2945.74 08343.98 25
TAYLOR #1 BIG BEND REEFS 14471.5 46108.9 2945.890 08343.640 27
TAYLOR #2 BIG BEND REEFS 14473.7 46105.6 2945.660 08343.920 27
60 TONS SCRAP STEEL 14428.0 46132.2 2938.76 08354..44 45
BUCKEYE REEF 14430.3 46133.8 2939.003 08354.245 47
THE CRACK 14398.5 45915.2 2923.81 08342.72 50
SUPER LEDGE 14389.3 45929.4 2922.81 08345.67 48
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Re: gps not showing installed waypoints correctly
Some of the numbers shown like this
2958.00 08350.00
which are the format you are using EXCEPT they are missing the 3rd decimal position which will throw you off several hundred feet.
Looks like you have some bumb numbers. Some of them are correct ... THE CRANE 2938.765 08352.889 is correct because it has the 3rd number after the decimal.
Do you have the Mapsource software? If not you need to get it. Here are some of the numbers you are looking for in the correct format
ADAMS BEACH N29 52.763 W83 38.589
MARKER 1 KEATON BEACH N29 48.839 W83 37.738
KEATON BEACH N29 49.096 W83 35.585
SPRING WARRIOR CREEK N29 55.327 W83 41.219
BIG GRASS ISLAND N29 44.296 W83 34.265
ROCK ISLANDS N29 58.383 W83 49.719
FENHOLLOWAY RIVER N29 58.572 W83 47.296
THE CRACK N29 23.819 W83 42.722
SUPERLEDGE N29 22.817 W83 45.675
BUCKEYE REEF N29 39.003 W83 54.245
DOGS HEAD CENTER N29 45.219 W83 37.425
N. STEINHATCHEE #1 BUOY N29 39.383 W83 27.376
More numbers can be found here...
http://www.bigbendfishing.net/reefs.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
2958.00 08350.00
which are the format you are using EXCEPT they are missing the 3rd decimal position which will throw you off several hundred feet.
Looks like you have some bumb numbers. Some of them are correct ... THE CRANE 2938.765 08352.889 is correct because it has the 3rd number after the decimal.
Do you have the Mapsource software? If not you need to get it. Here are some of the numbers you are looking for in the correct format
ADAMS BEACH N29 52.763 W83 38.589
MARKER 1 KEATON BEACH N29 48.839 W83 37.738
KEATON BEACH N29 49.096 W83 35.585
SPRING WARRIOR CREEK N29 55.327 W83 41.219
BIG GRASS ISLAND N29 44.296 W83 34.265
ROCK ISLANDS N29 58.383 W83 49.719
FENHOLLOWAY RIVER N29 58.572 W83 47.296
THE CRACK N29 23.819 W83 42.722
SUPERLEDGE N29 22.817 W83 45.675
BUCKEYE REEF N29 39.003 W83 54.245
DOGS HEAD CENTER N29 45.219 W83 37.425
N. STEINHATCHEE #1 BUOY N29 39.383 W83 27.376
More numbers can be found here...
http://www.bigbendfishing.net/reefs.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: gps not showing installed waypoints correctly
great help!!!!!!
anybody got good #'s for yates creek and the inlet to Econfina??????
anybody got good #'s for yates creek and the inlet to Econfina??????
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Econfina Tripod N30 02.084 W83 55.587
Yates Creek Entrance N29 53.708 W83 39.238
Yates Creek Entrance N29 53.708 W83 39.238
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Re: gps not showing installed waypoints correctly
Where is the " the crack" and " super ledge"? Is it close to buckeye reef? All my gps equip is at Econfina . Thanks Carla bear



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20 miles SSE of buckeye.Carlabear wrote:Where is the " the crack" and " super ledge"? Is it close to buckeye reef? All my gps equip is at Econfina . Thanks Carla bear![]()
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Re: gps not showing installed waypoints correctly
What's the number for Big Trout out of Keaton? 

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PPPPPPFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTTTTTTTChalk wrote:What's the number for Big Trout out of Keaton?
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