Important Information Needed!!

[Tom Keels]

Got this email from Jerry Gerardi. If anyone has any information about this, please contact Jerry at the email below.

"Has anyone been stopped and cited (either a warning or a ticket) by FWC for sharing expenses with fishing partners on their boat because they didn't have a captain's license? I'm trying to track down a reported incident and need to know if this has happened to anyone else." Jerry Gerardi, Tallahassee Democrat, Reply to gerardigb@aol.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Dubble Trubble]

Thats ridiculous, but with the oppressive government we have today, I do not doubt it has happened.....

Dubble

[BayGator]

I just took the USCG class and that subject was brought up. We were told that if you accept any kind of money for a fishing trip by your fishing partners it can be considered a "for hire" trip. I assume this only applied to someone who holds a USCG License of course.

[chugbug]

If that's the case, just get the money before you leave or after you get home. Still seems rediculous that you can't "share" expenses.

[jsuber]

That must be the same guy that would stop a boat with 20 passengers that just got picked up off the water after a plane crash, and iving them a ticket for not having enough PFD's.

[Jumptrout51]

If the boat owner made a profit from the shared expenses, I "maybe" could see the point.
Friends sharing actual expense is "not for profit".

[BrogensDuck]

how is that monitored anyway?? "Hey buddy...did your friend there give you a $20 bill back there at Jerry's?"

[Carlabear]

I have heard of the same thing. I think it is true, but they would have a hard time proving this among friends !

[mjsigns]

There are only three kinds of business-
1- Your business
2- My business
3- God's business.

Some one needs to play their cards a little closer to their chest

[bman]

Think about the word PROFIT....

If you look at the cost of boat ownership and upkeep most guys could charge double "expenses" and still show a loss.

Splitting costs with a friend or a friend of a friend is not a business.

[Jumptrout51]

I contacted FWC. The PAO said this is the first he has heard of this.
He also said he would talk to his Captains and get back to me with an answer.

[Bow'd Up]

Not heard of it and hopefully don't experience it......Would be one mad SOB......

[PinFishKing]

I had some friends over recently for poker and steaks. Before they left, everyne pitched in on the cost of the food. Am I operating a restaurant without a license? Am I in danger of beng charged with something? If this is happening it is BULL SH....... The folks I associate with are more than willing to help out with the expenses. This is not a profit thing, it is a freaking survival thing at this point.

[MudDucker]

I had some friends over recently for poker and steaks. Before they left, everyne pitched in on the cost of the food. Am I operating a restaurant without a license? Am I in danger of beng charged with something? If this is happening it is BULL SH....... The folks I associate with are more than willing to help out with the expenses. This is not a profit thing, it is a freaking survival thing at this point.

No, you are operating a casino....violation of both federal and state law

[Jumptrout51]

Steve,

Here’s your answer. Both a captain and one of our lieutenants weighed in and said, no – we are not arresting people for splitting the cost of fuel, etc. You can read the last line of Lt. Nelson’s response. Where the problems will come in is hiring someone to take you out who is unlicensed.



Stan




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From: Parramore, Kenneth
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:23 AM
To: Kirkland, Stan
Subject: FW: Important Information Needed!!



FYI




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From: Nelson, Drew
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:16 PM
To: Parramore, Kenneth
Subject: RE: Important Information Needed!!



I have not seen or heard of anyone addressing this behavior. In reading the bloggers comments, I would have to agree with the one that stated the vessel must be “for hire”.

A USCG license, along with commercial registered vessel and all the equipment associated with that business. A few friends splitting the cost for ice, bait, and fuel is not for hire.

Drew




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From: Parramore, Kenneth
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 8:03 AM
To: Nelson, Drew; Chesser, Jay
Subject: FW: Important Information Needed!!



We are not doing this are we?




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From: Kirkland, Stan
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 4:04 PM
To: Pridgen, Dave; Alderson, Leroy; Duval, Donald; Parramore, Kenneth; Sumner, Mary
Subject: FW: Important Information Needed!!



FYI.



Stan




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From: Jumptrout51@aol.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; [mailto:Jumptrout51@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 12:56 PM
To: Kirkland, Stan
Subject: Important Information Needed!!



Dear Stan, Please read the forum post attached

BigBendFishing.Net • View topic - Important Information Needed!!





Are your people writing tickets for sharing expenses on a boat?



Please say it ain't so.

Thanks,

Steve Taylor, President North Florida Gulf Fishing Club



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