Capsized boat at Dekle Beach saturday???

[Hit-n-Miss]

Heard on the VHF radio that it was a 16' Carolina Skiff and that everyone on board was ok. Does anyone know any details on what happened??

[saltycrab]

Glad everyone is ok, but would be interested to know what happened.

[Hit-n-Miss]

I called the marina and they said the boat was anchored off the stern. The boat filled up with water and rolled over.

[bman]

I called the marina and they said the boat was anchored off the stern. The boat filled up with water and rolled over.

Anchored off the stern???? How do people do that?

[saltycrab]

Hope it wasn't my old J16, as it mainly goes out of that area I believe.

[MudDucker]

I called the marina and they said the boat was anchored off the stern. The boat filled up with water and rolled over.

Anchored off the stern???? How do people do that?

I saw an older man do this with a 26' center console at the jetties on the St. Johns River. I idled by and mentioned it to him. He looked at me like I was crazy. I ran on out and when I came back a coast guard boat was gathering the debris. I asked them what happened. They said the boat rolled and threw everyone out when the tide turned and started rushing out. The three on the boat survived by clinging to the jetties, but were badly cut up and bleeding when recovered. I've caught some huge sharks in that area. Almost makes you want to see a license requirement for boat operation.

[Steve Stinson]

People do the same thing by getting an anchor stuck on the bottom, then trying to pull it free with the outboard. When they let off of the throttle, the stretch comes back out of the anchor line pulling the boat backwards quickly and sending a wave of water over the transom. Don't ever try to free your anchor by tying the rope to a rear cleat and pulling with the motor.

- Steve Stinson

[Flint River Pirate]

People do the same thing by getting an anchor stuck on the bottom, then trying to pull it free with the outboard. When they let off of the throttle, the stretch comes back out of the anchor line pulling the boat backwards quickly and sending a wave of water over the transom. Don't ever try to free your anchor by tying the rope to a rear cleat and pulling with the motor.

- Steve Stinson

Great advice Steve!

[SS-342]

X2 Never thought of that! Thanks

[onefishtwofish]

Isn't that what happened to the guys offshore that were football players down south?

[Williamsdad]

Pretty sure the answer is yes. That accident definitely involved a stuck anchor and attempts to free it, I believe using the power of the boat.

[robbankston]

Tying things off to the back of the boat usually leads to trouble....

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[big bend gyrene]

Isn't that what happened to the guys offshore that were football players down south?

Pretty sure the answer is yes. That accident definitely involved a stuck anchor and attempts to free it, I believe using the power of the boat.

Absolutely was.

Not written by either a fishing or boating expert, and it shows in the writing, but still a read that's stuck with me simply because of the tragic nature of the event. Worth the read if for no other reason than to reinforce a number of things not to do when fishing / boating.

http://www.amazon.com/Not-Without-Hope- ... B0041T4OIK

[Ifishtoo]

People do the same thing by getting an anchor stuck on the bottom, then trying to pull it free with the outboard. When they let off of the throttle, the stretch comes back out of the anchor line pulling the boat backwards quickly and sending a wave of water over the transom. Don't ever try to free your anchor by tying the rope to a rear cleat and pulling with the motor.

- Steve Stinson

Gotta weigh in here. Did those young ball players have much experience about their endeavor? This is just like everything else, you need some Seamanship....... aka: know how, plus common sense. Know your boats limitations. How many folks rig an anchor with a "trip"? Then there is 3/8, 1/2, or 5/8 inch rope; which one is right for your boat, your needs? I have popped an anchor loose from the bottom 3000-5000 times in 40yrs of fishing. Have done it in boats 45', down to 19'. In heavy seas, you better be careful. Always pull in the totally opposite direction (aka look at the damn compass) that you set the anchor. Use an anchor ball. Try it with a long scope out the stern. Short scope in heavy seas is foolish. Better have a stout cleat/bit mounted for pulling. If you have an open, low transom; be aware of it. No need for anyone to be near the stern, either. Matter of fact, that is the last place you should be for several reasons.

Sometimes trouble comes when it is totally unexpected, but often it comes from foolish, unwise behavior. Boaters/fishermen are not required to exhibit any "know how", just pull out your wallet and call yourself captain!

[big bend gyrene]

Having read the book "Not Without Hope" I can absolutely say that youth, lack of seamanship, and lack of common sense all played a part... part of youth is thinking you're bulletproof and when you mix that in with lack of tough-taught experience it sometimes makes for a deadly recipe as it did with the case of the ball players. Going far offshore without paying attention to some pretty dire weather reports was actually their first mistake. Continuing on out while rough, a second... and then trying to save a few bucks once they got tired of fighting the crappy weather was the straw that broke the camel's back.

With cobia my favorite target, I love structure and structure often makes for stuck anchors. Here's my .02.. no anchor is worth losing your life over. 99% of the time I get the anchor up without too much problem, but I've cut at least two BADLY stuck ones versus risking life and limb. Having cut a few, I've carried an extra on board the past few years just so I don't have to even tempt myself with doing anything crazy to save one, as well as to have one for safety sake if I've cut one and need another on the way back in. Maybe the opposite of Murphy's Law, but since I started keeping a back-up on board, I haven't gotten a single one stuck for even a minute.