Multi hook rigs

Post by **Chalk** » September 27th, 2004, 8:06 pm

What's your preferred method for tying multi hook rigs for say snapper and trigger fish?

I have tied a few of these, but don't have faith in the line to line knot...I tied a few with dropper and uni knots and like it better...What's in your tackle box?

Post by **Ken K** » September 27th, 2004, 9:09 pm

Google "dropper loop knot", it's what I use to tie Pompano rigs. It seems to be very strong. You can either cut one leg off at the knot or tie the hook on with the double line.

Post by **Cranfield** » September 28th, 2004, 4:22 am

IMO most "dropper loops", are forms of strangulation knots.
This is not a problem when using very heavy mono lines, say over 50lbs.

With braid, or lighter lines, I prefer three way swivels in the appropriate size.

Post by **Ken K** » September 28th, 2004, 6:48 am

What do you mean by "strangulation knot"?

Post by **Cranfield** » September 28th, 2004, 7:47 am

A "strangulation knot" to me, is one that goes back over itself in coils.
This means that, when extreme pull is exerted at either end of the line, it can cut into itself and break.

As I said, this is a greater problem with lighter monos.

Post by **Ken K** » September 28th, 2004, 7:59 am

Whew...........I was really hoping you weren't going to say something about the loop strangling fish.

I haven't had any problems with the dropper loop with 20 lb. and larger leader. It seems to tangle less than swivels for me.

Post by **Cranfield** » September 29th, 2004, 7:29 am

I assumed you were dropping the rig over the side of the boat, ala grouper/snapper fishing.
If so, it shouldn't tangle.

For casting a two hook rig when beach fishing, I use a different system.
Main trace line should be at least 50lb breaking strain mono.

Tie hook to mono link (I would usually use a 1/0 to 3/0 hook and 20lb mono) and attach to small swivel.

On the main line place a small metal crimp, then a rubber bead and then your swivel(with hook and trace attached), then a rubber bead and another metal crimp.
The metal crimps do not need to be squeezed down too hard.

Repeat for the second rig.

I use a clip at either end of the main trace line, to attach it to the reel line and the weight.

Although I am concerned about "strangulation knots", I have never had the main line break at the crimp.

Post by **Ken K** » September 29th, 2004, 2:14 pm

Cranfield, the rig you describe is sold in every bait and tackle store in Panama City Beach. I have wondered why they are usually referred to as "Tourist Rigs" , do you suppose an Englishman (on Holliday) taught the locals how to make them?

Post by **Cranfield** » September 29th, 2004, 5:34 pm

Ken, they are very efficient simple rigs.
I suspect they are called "tourist rigs", because they are ready made, for convenience.

An Englishmen abroad, would never presume to teach anyone, anything about fishing.
We might try to remind them about something they may have forgotten, but teach, heaven forbid.

Post by **tin can** » September 29th, 2004, 8:39 pm

Cran, I would have thaught "Fishing Instructor" would have been on your long list of specialties.

Post by **Cranfield** » September 30th, 2004, 3:49 am

TC, I have tried it, but I found I got much better accommodation discounts with my Medical or Law Enforcement " qualifications".