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Mook! wrote:The question we need to ask is not whether or not the debates were bad, but how they got to be this bad in the first place. The last eight years of irresponsible candidacy by the Bush administraiton, supported by McCain, have led the American public to want to buy this 'change' bulls**t, whether or not it contains any actual substance what-so-ever.
And I guess Clinton and the demos in congress don't have any blame in this. After all, they are the ones who pushed lenders to make loans to folks who couldn't pay them back. Failure to recognize this comes from drinking to much demo kook aide.

McCain, although not my top choice, is sure not W's man. He has stood up against W several times and stood up against the demos Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae fiasco.

I wouldn't vote for Obama if he was the only one running, because we would then have NO candidate with the credentials to be President. :hammer:
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Yah...I was mocking (and to a certain degree just quoting) Obama. He answered I think 3 of the first 5 questions with "That's not the question, Bush Bush Bush Bush McCain-Bush, Bush-Bush-Bush....." Yes McCain has stood against not only Bush but the entire Republican party on many issues, some of which being specifically those that Obama is trying to pigeon-hole McCain as another Bush. This is how he got the reputation as the 'maverick' of the senate. He pointed that out himself, but Obama is just too intent on campaigning against Bush because McCain is just so much better than him, even if he's not the perfect candidate.

This is the first candidate I've seen try so hard to run against the current end-of-term-limit President instead of his opponenet. He's a smacktard, and I find him scary. And yah, I wouldn't vote for him either if he was the only candidate.

I can't believe you guys thought I was serious... :hammer:
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Had three young Obama/Biden backers come to my door last night @ 7 as I was eating the redfish I caught on Saturday. :lick: We heard the dog bark and knew someone was in the yard but they just stood at the door for 5 minutes without knocking!?!? I finally opened the door and they stood there shocked, kind of not knowing what to say. I just said I had already voted absentee and they said great and took off down the driveway, probably glad they did not have to talk to the guy with a boat, Z-71, big dog, and American flag in the yard. Anyone else getting the grassroots campaigners? Makes me wonder where the McCain backers are...probably fishing. :-?
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I know two McCain backers that was fishing Sat...
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It will be very interesting to see what happens on Thursday. I believe Palin has been spoon fed all the appropriate responces but would be astonished if she understood half. She seems like a nice enough lady, but not someone that I would put in leadership postition, let alone the Vice President of the most powerful country in the world. I believe that Biden (if he can compose himself) is going to chew her up and spit her out. She's not in Alaska anymore. I know this goes against the grain of a majority of the feelings and beliefs on this site, but a view from the opposite side can never hurt. Here's to Democracy! :beer: :beer: :thumbup:
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Tom Keels wrote:

The debate last night showed nothing new. Both men just re-stated things that had already been said on the campaign trail . Obama scares me a little with some of his inexperience. McCain just scares me.

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captkeyser wrote:Here's to Democracy! :beer: :beer: :thumbup:
Actually listening to what other people say is worth the effort.
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Littoral wrote:
captkeyser wrote:Here's to Democracy! :beer: :beer: :thumbup:
Democracy...YES...Democrats>>>NO!!!
I am registered as a Democrat. I will not be voting for Obama. He has less experience than Palin. He has never run anything.
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No Slack wrote: Makes me wonder where the McCain backers are...probably fishing. :-?
More like working :roll: :wink: I'm getting weary of hearing so many people say that McCain doesn't stand a chance of winning. When I ask why, they say "All I see is Obama signs and bumper stickers and he's all we ever hear about on the news." Most people I know voting for McCain don't have the first thing visually to promote him. As of last week, Obama had spent over $8 million in Florida to McCain's $0 for advertising. It's primarily the media trying to get Obama elected. They are just an extension of the Democrats.....mostly the looney side. When it comes down to it, Palin's (I mean McCain's :roll: ) supporters will show up in full force and vote their conscience.....not what a yard sign, media moron or a bumper sticker told them to do :thumbup:

No worries.....I still dont feel that Obama will be our next President. Nothing against him personally. I just don't belive that America has gotten to the point where we will elect our leader based on how they speak and look, or that they want to "be a part of history." We can do that by electing the first female VP :lol: That's all Obama has. Experience does matter. Like my granddad used to say "You don't demand respect or integrity.....you earn it." It will all come out in the wash.......
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i think theyre ALL crooks. both sides of the aisle.
it just pisses me off that this is the best we could come up with in a time like this.
i want to like obama, but hes just not going to be able to get anything done in office. the things he "Says" he wants to do are just too out there (practical?) for congress or the house to pass.
mccain is a good guy, but i just cant put two more frkn oil puppets in the white house. i cant and it makes me sick to think that we dont really have a choice cause thats whats gonna happen. im tired of knowing were all struggling and big oil is raking in the highest profits ever. esp when if we would climb out of their pockets, we truthfully dont need them much anymore.
and i love palin, but shes about a sharp as a sack of wet mice.
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guess were all screwed annyway. lets drink. :beer: :beer: :beer:
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kikstand454 wrote:and i love palin, but shes about a sharp as a sack of wet mice.

Like the rest of them up in Washington are a bunch of fricckin geniuses...... :smt005

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I've heard McCain called a lot of things, but never a puppet of big oil. Palin sure is no puppet of big oil. I think if McCain's folks would let her go, Palin would do a lot better. Instead, right now, she is having to hold the party line.
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well,
as far a im concerned, until somone proposes and then initiates a plan to get this country off of oil...then they are puppets. there's no need for us to be strangled by it anymore and the only logical reason nothing is done about it is money. everyone is getting a slice of the oil pie except the people that work for a living.
alternative fuels for our infrastructure, nuclear,solar,natural gas,wind, clean coal... could lower the demand for oil so much that the cost would be negligable.
all of those things have been possible and available for decades. and yet..... here we are burning oil for electricity. burning oil for transporting goods. burning oil in goverment vehicles.... etc.
its stupid and its a freakin scam.
and the funding available to improve existing or future alternative fuels (hydrogen and electric..etc..) is just a gesture to pretend that they are trying. its appalling.
puppets. every damn one of them. exxon owns this country as much as china does.
its disgusting.
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Wondering, if our representatives (ouch) in Washington are having so much difficulty with a financial
situation what makes anyone think they are qualified to understand the science of climate change?
Just wondering.
Actually listening to what other people say is worth the effort.
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I just got done reading CNN and I would like to say that the media is a bunch of @#$%&*%$#$ *&$% @#%$**&... but then everyone already knows that. I got to reading about (as his most appropriate name) "Uh"bama and :stupid_1 Biden and Florida... the media is saying that 51% of the likely voters in Florida will vote for "Uh"bama and :stupid_1 Biden....
Now, the problem I have :-D
I WILL VOTE COME NOVEMBER AND NO ONE EVER ASKED ME WHO I WAS VOTING FOR!!
So where/who are the 51%?
Just a question, yall have a good day! :smt006

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