ID this dead snake please
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luke...my b-day is this month....i expect a vintage snake skin belt as a gift....34 waste size....no excuses.
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You know its one badazz snake when it spells out YAYA right in the middle. 

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I believe that there's a "South Eastern Deadone." Those are my favorite!
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I HAVE NEVER SEEN ONE THAT LIGHT COLOR OR WITH SO MANY MARKINGS. IT IS ALSO KINDA LONG AND SLENDER FOR A MOCASIN. ALL I HAVE SEEN, AND THAT HAS BEEN A BUNCH, HAVE BEEN A LOT SHORTER AND ALMOST BLACK IN COLOR AND MUCH LARGER AROUND.
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Anybody that lives in the state of Florida, and thinks that snake is boa or a python is an idiot...Go back to Ohio
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Please...that's a cottonmouth, hands down.
Come wadefishing with me at the St Marks Refuge and I'll show you my patented "cottonmouth 2-step avoidance maneuver." The key aspect of this special dance is an awareness that Mr. Moccasin does not give ground. As much as I want to hate him, I gotta admire his All-American badassness. As in...
Don't Tread On Me, or I will F**k You Up.
Go USA!
Come wadefishing with me at the St Marks Refuge and I'll show you my patented "cottonmouth 2-step avoidance maneuver." The key aspect of this special dance is an awareness that Mr. Moccasin does not give ground. As much as I want to hate him, I gotta admire his All-American badassness. As in...
Don't Tread On Me, or I will F**k You Up.
Go USA!
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Google timber or canebreak rattlesnake, i think thats what it is. To lite of a color for cottonmouth.
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Looks like a timber rattle snake to me. We killed them on a regular basis at middle Ga hunting club. I cant explain the no rattle though.
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Wonder if Atticus is even still keeping up with this mega-thread...
For anyone who is, the pics are interesting in that the snake definitely is in the viper family/is poisonous, but to Pa's point looks pretty darn slender and light for an adult... here's a pic of exactly what I'm used to seeing out in Lloyd when I've found them...

Very dark with muted coloration and much thicker/fatter body than the snake pictured. This shared I killed a juvennile at my pool a year or so back that was definitely in the viper family/had cat eyes but was much lighter than I had seen before and was marked much like Atticus's snake.
Being the curious sort, did some google work and lo' & behold we're right on the edge of an intergradation/transitional area that holds multiple sub-species of water moccasins. Sounds like it's likely "piscivorus conanti" which is not the much more widely spread eastern cottonmouth, but instead is known specifically as the Florida cottonmouth.
For anyone interested in details on the subspecies, here's some interesting info I copied from a US Geological Survey site...
There are three cottonmouth subspecies (races): A. piscivorus conanti (Gloyd, 1969), the Florida Cottonmouth; A. piscivorus piscivorus (Lacepède, 1789), the Eastern Cottonmouth; and A. piscivorus leucostoma (Troost, 1836), the Western Cottonmouth. Typically A. p. conanti has the most prominent bands and facial markings of the three subspecies but there is much variation within each taxon (Gloyd and Conant, 1990; Conant and Collins, 1998). In A. p. leucostoma males are more likely to have prominent bands than females (Zaidan, 2001). Young Cottonmouths are strongly patterned and have a yellow tail (Behler and King, 1979; Gloyd and Conant, 1990; Lamar, 1997; Conant and Collins, 1998). Identification of individual subspecies is made more difficult by a broad geographic area of intergradation between all three of them (Conant and Collins, 1998).


For anyone who is, the pics are interesting in that the snake definitely is in the viper family/is poisonous, but to Pa's point looks pretty darn slender and light for an adult... here's a pic of exactly what I'm used to seeing out in Lloyd when I've found them...

Very dark with muted coloration and much thicker/fatter body than the snake pictured. This shared I killed a juvennile at my pool a year or so back that was definitely in the viper family/had cat eyes but was much lighter than I had seen before and was marked much like Atticus's snake.
Being the curious sort, did some google work and lo' & behold we're right on the edge of an intergradation/transitional area that holds multiple sub-species of water moccasins. Sounds like it's likely "piscivorus conanti" which is not the much more widely spread eastern cottonmouth, but instead is known specifically as the Florida cottonmouth.
For anyone interested in details on the subspecies, here's some interesting info I copied from a US Geological Survey site...
There are three cottonmouth subspecies (races): A. piscivorus conanti (Gloyd, 1969), the Florida Cottonmouth; A. piscivorus piscivorus (Lacepède, 1789), the Eastern Cottonmouth; and A. piscivorus leucostoma (Troost, 1836), the Western Cottonmouth. Typically A. p. conanti has the most prominent bands and facial markings of the three subspecies but there is much variation within each taxon (Gloyd and Conant, 1990; Conant and Collins, 1998). In A. p. leucostoma males are more likely to have prominent bands than females (Zaidan, 2001). Young Cottonmouths are strongly patterned and have a yellow tail (Behler and King, 1979; Gloyd and Conant, 1990; Lamar, 1997; Conant and Collins, 1998). Identification of individual subspecies is made more difficult by a broad geographic area of intergradation between all three of them (Conant and Collins, 1998).

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BIG BEND GYRENE, NOW THAT IS WHAT I CALL A MOCCASIN , THE ONE YOU POSTED ON YOUR REPLY. THE ONE THAT ATTICUS POSTED A PICTURE TO ME IS MORE LIKE THE CANEBREAK RATTLER. THE CANEBREAK RATTLER WE FOUND WERE ALWAYS IN WIDE OPEN AREAS, JUST GRAB THEIR TAILS AND POP THEIR HEADS OFF LIKE YOU WOULD A BULL WHIP.
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you're all wrong. It defintely a Bushmaster. 

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This one straight took after me as if it wanted to fight today right after the rain.
My kid was 10ft away. By the grace of God it didn't charge him.
I just happened to turn around and saw this nasty Fer charging me.
I ran and put my son (2.5) inside then got the Taurus Judge for some lead poisoning retribution. That's a spent 2.5in. 410 hull by his head
Thinking about moving

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Cottonmouth
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