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by doomtrpr_z71
February 22nd, 2024, 4:32 pm
Forum: Fishing
Topic: So following up on the Gag discussion
Replies: 25
Views: 1729

Re: So following up on the Gag discussion

And speaking of more NOAA data https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240222/9969885b3ff7fdfe2b2b425691c6b266.jpg Take a look at this, they estimate that more fish were caught inland by shore fishermen (8910) than caught within 10 miles of the coast (5983) by charter boats. They figure that 411 were cau...
by doomtrpr_z71
February 20th, 2024, 11:32 pm
Forum: Fishing
Topic: So following up on the Gag discussion
Replies: 25
Views: 1729

Re: So following up on the Gag discussion

Well I left my laptop and only had my tablet during the meeting, so no stats have been ran and it'll be Friday before I get back.

I have zero issues doing a report to send to the FWC but I have no idea who to send it to.

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by doomtrpr_z71
February 20th, 2024, 10:41 am
Forum: Fishing
Topic: So following up on the Gag discussion
Replies: 25
Views: 1729

Re: So following up on the Gag discussion

So following up, the reason the average length of gags is 160mm is because they count the releases as 0 so that reduces the total length. And it's total length in the data, so adjusting the data to actual catches and averaging the length to per fish instead of total length the data shows an average...
by doomtrpr_z71
February 19th, 2024, 10:33 pm
Forum: Fishing
Topic: So following up on the Gag discussion
Replies: 25
Views: 1729

Re: So following up on the Gag discussion

So following up, the reason the average length of gags is 160mm is because they count the releases as 0 so that reduces the total length. And it's total length in the data, so adjusting the data to actual catches and averaging the length to per fish instead of total length the data shows an average ...
by doomtrpr_z71
February 19th, 2024, 6:05 pm
Forum: Fishing
Topic: So following up on the Gag discussion
Replies: 25
Views: 1729

Re: So following up on the Gag discussion

My curiosity is well beyond peaked. Who is collecting the data from recreational anglers? Are there Fed. scientists roaming the waters? Are they collecting data from the USCG? I hear of FWC regularly inspecting anglers, but USCG? Not often enough to produce any data. If the average length of Gags i...
by doomtrpr_z71
February 19th, 2024, 12:28 pm
Forum: Fishing
Topic: So following up on the Gag discussion
Replies: 25
Views: 1729

Re: So following up on the Gag discussion

I hope you don’t find that level of boredom.. but await such findings as a fruit of boredom labor. I had time during my teams meeting today to kill, they do not take weather into account, I honestly have no idea where that data is even coming from as they don't split the effort data out by species.
by doomtrpr_z71
February 18th, 2024, 10:49 pm
Forum: Fishing
Topic: So following up on the Gag discussion
Replies: 25
Views: 1729

Re: So following up on the Gag discussion

At this point the information isn’t worth considering. A volunteer with a clip board taking down subjective fish stories as the gospel is hard to conceive as a reputable source. They take into consideration the part where people who think they know what’s best and give them more bait shop gossip ab...
by doomtrpr_z71
February 18th, 2024, 5:32 pm
Forum: Fishing
Topic: So following up on the Gag discussion
Replies: 25
Views: 1729

Re: So following up on the Gag discussion

boomhauer wrote:If gags are so scare, it’s funny we busted the quota in 8 weeks where 1 year prior we didn’t bust it in 8 months.
Or how if you run the model for by catch I'm 99% sure it would be over the quota by April.

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by doomtrpr_z71
February 18th, 2024, 11:32 am
Forum: Fishing
Topic: So following up on the Gag discussion
Replies: 25
Views: 1729

Re: So following up on the Gag discussion

My buddy said the "Shore Based" data came from a handful of gags caught from the bridge in Tampa Bay. Once they applied the "Fairy Dust" that became 106,000 pounds caught from shore. Total BS. They only had a single keeper caught from shore, one that's it. Sent from my Pixel 8 P...
by doomtrpr_z71
February 17th, 2024, 5:40 pm
Forum: Fishing
Topic: So following up on the Gag discussion
Replies: 25
Views: 1729

So following up on the Gag discussion

When I bought a bay boat, I had high hopes of being able to fish state waters in FL in the winter and catch some shallow gags and not burn 40 gallons of gas to do it. But according to NOAA we majorly exceeded catch limits in 2023 or did we? I will preface this by saying I am not a NOAA data scientis...
by doomtrpr_z71
February 15th, 2024, 11:11 pm
Forum: Fishing
Topic: This ain’t good..
Replies: 17
Views: 2100

Re: This ain’t good..

Red Beard wrote:Image
It’s all fairy dust..
It's so bad if what I'm seeing is correct I'm going to need to start a new thread to explain the fairy dust.

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by doomtrpr_z71
February 15th, 2024, 1:20 pm
Forum: Fishing
Topic: This ain’t good..
Replies: 17
Views: 2100

Re: This ain’t good..

Preliminary look at the data, we are being penalized for reporting out of season and short grouper. This dataset is embarrassing to even work with. I would be embarrassed to even use it in a publication.

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by doomtrpr_z71
February 14th, 2024, 10:22 pm
Forum: Fishing
Topic: This ain’t good..
Replies: 17
Views: 2100

Re: This ain’t good..

Looking at the graph, the 23 estimate before rerunning the model has a spread of 1.5 million lbs between the 95% confidence levels which tells me their model has very little data put into it and a lot of generation from limited inputs. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240215/3b964d31d01ff3898edcec...
by doomtrpr_z71
February 14th, 2024, 10:10 pm
Forum: Fishing
Topic: This ain’t good..
Replies: 17
Views: 2100

Re: This ain’t good..

So far they haven't even released the corrected dataset so I'm curious to see how it looks, if the sample size is as small as THT suggests it is, it's no wonder the extrapolation is so out of whack compared to the fl numbers.

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by doomtrpr_z71
February 14th, 2024, 3:53 pm
Forum: Fishing
Topic: This ain’t good..
Replies: 17
Views: 2100

Re: This ain’t good..

I'm going to try and get their dataset and run the statistics myself just to see what I come up with myself.

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